I'm sure Dave Cohen and Terry will provide a full report, but in my estimation, it went extremely well. Although OSAC didn't officially add it as an "agenda item" as Dave Cohen requested, Greg Stevinson did generously devote about 30 minutes to our public comment, and there was some good dialogue.J\V said:No one?
You spelled burritos wrong.Pluto Pilot said:Meeting was amazing. The JeffCo commissioners all listened attentively to what the mountain bikers had to say and all came to the personal realization that their views of mountain biking were discriminatory and evil. They then proceeded to eliminate any bad thoughts of alternate day closures from their minds, banned hikers and equestrians from all JeffCo trails, and pledged to dedicate $10,000,000 to create 100-plus new mountain biking only centers, each with 50 miles of trail minimum (and with no annoying waterbars) in the county by the end of 2007. Each station will have a bike wash, a self serve work station, and hot college girls serving burritoes and beer to riders for free. And then they gave all mountain bikers at the meeting a hot-off-the-oven chocloate chip cookie, size large.
lemme guess, you had one of the BIG margaritas at tequila's beforehand?Pluto Pilot said:Meeting was amazing. . . And then they gave all mountain bikers at the meeting a hot-off-the-oven chocloate chip cookie, size large.
Nah, it was good to show that there are mountain bikers who are paying attention to what the open space park rangers are doing and that we are interested in helping.IndecentExposure said:In My Opinion, I think we went and complained out of turn, ; without facts, real witnesses, and too much hearsay.
Also, "us mountain bikers" is a much more pervasive multi-national group than the bigoted article from the buzz would lead one to believe. Mountain biking is a vehicle for aerobic activity and to see much more of nature in one trip. You breath more of the good mountain air and see more of nature's wonders (sometimes, up close, face down!)Flyer said:Yes, and they agreed that light-colored spandex wearers would be immediately put on the Nuisance List and carried off the trail after being wrapped in a tarp.
The meeting went well. I've seen where equestrians and bird watchers have closed trails to mtn bikers even though they speak all nicely and cooperatively during the group meetings. Our inaction and implicit trust in other user groups led to that. On the other hand, those groups worked diligently (by inviting officials to lunch/dinner and with a barage of calls and letters) to exclude us by showing how "diruptive" bikers could be to trails and wildlife. After several of these behind-the-scene badgerings, the officials gave in. We did not even know this was happening till it was too late. The officials here seem to be much more professional and understanding and do not appear to be the type to be swayed. I was impressed by the fact that they spent so much time listening to us as trail users with equal rights.
Regardless, we need to be involved in these meetings consistently and offer to help build/maintain trails frequently, especially when we know that the county is considering a purchase. As long as we provide value to them, they will always see us mountain bikers in a positive light.
On another note, that Mexican band at Tequila's was outta control
Agreed.crashtoomuch said:Nah, it was good to show that there are mountain bikers who are paying attention to what the open space park rangers are doing and that we are interested in helping.
If not yielding to someone who's not even on the trail gets you a warning and put on the black list, that's enough to get me to show up - actual ticket or not.