[superlightracer]

Your Election Info Headquarters

Please don't throw away your vote. Make sure you know all about who is going to represent YOUR country.

cheers,
Aaron

 

[JM01]

Your Election Info Headquarters

Please don't throw away your vote. Make sure you know all about who is going to represent YOUR country.

cheers,
Aaron

Although someone will advise that this belongs on a different board...you have to ask which of the parties represent a national voice...liberals are the party of Ontario, conservatives own the west, and the bloc has quebec, with the maritimes controlling the outcome...last time they gave it to the liberals.

point being, that canada, as a unified country no longer exists...perhaps its time to stick a fork in 'er and finally declare that we're 4 independant states

just a thought

 

[nogearshere]

i will vote.
my Canada ain't done yet.
4 states...no, don't.

 

[superlightracer]

I feel that this is an important enough a topic that it merits being here.

I personally feel the solution would be to reduce federal control over provinces, such that provinces operate much more independently. This is the solution. Not dividing.


cheers,
Aaron

 

[nogearshere]

the main problem i have with federal politics in Canada is the inability to select a national leader. sure we vote, sure we vote federally...but not necessarly for the person that will represent our country (internationally) or our views.

in effect we are forced to decide at the polls whether our local representative is more important than a national leader? do I vote for a local candidate whom I don't like in order to get the prime minister I do? Do I forgo the former to get the latter?

what about the issues? who is going to step up this election and tackle something other than the status quo...

 

[Bill Payer]

it is a large, diverse country and it is unrealistic to think that at some point everyone from Victoria to St. Johns will have a common, unified choice.

why stop at 4 states? we should just chop it up into 13 states to represent each of these cultural and geographic differences... oh wait, we already have a provincial system.

...what was the point again?

p.s.... this does not belong on a biking forum. the importance of a topic does not merit it appearing on a biking forum, I think that saving the whales is equally important but you do see me blathering on about that here. if everyone introduced whatever topics they felt were important and did not stick to the biking theme this would soon cease to be a biking forum and simply another watered-down political board, with the odd post on the dating scene in Toronto. (where did Picard go?)...just my $0.02

 

[TT.]

MERRY CHRISTMAS everyone

p.s...take this to PM's....no reason to foul up a mtb'in board with dirty politics

 

[nogearshere]

The importance of getting of our collective arses out and voting trumps any bike forum or any bike related topic. I believe that PM'ing all Eastern Canada members would be called SPAM...

There are no dirty politics, no party alliances. Just a friendly reminder to educate you self and do your duty. To Canada and the rest of the world that needs her.

Lets not forget at the end of the day EVERYTHING is political in one form or another.

 

[Bill Payer]

The importance of getting of our collective arses out and voting trumps any bike forum or any bike related topic.

Lets not forget at the end of the day EVERYTHING is political in one form or another.

true and true.

however.... fighting kiddie porn, 3rd world hunger, the environment and so on... all trump our federal election, but this is simply not the place.

 

[Bill Payer]

sorry, IMO that's where u're wrong NOTHING comes above bikin' 'round here

touché TT,

and merry xmas to you too.

 

[TT.]

The importance of getting of our collective arses out and voting trumps any bike forum or any bike related topic.

sorry, IMO that's where u're wrong NOTHING comes above bikin' 'round here

 

[nogearshere]

the 'appropriate' elected official will allocate resources based on your/our priorities. 3rd world hunger, the environment, debt, same sex marriage, foreign policy, bicycle advocacy and many other 'issues' can NEVER be dealt with, without some form of government involvement.


vote, then ride. and when you are riding remember just how lucky you really are.

 

[jason74]

I say take this crap to the political forum!

 

[JM01]

aren't we being a bit naive

the 'appropriate' elected official will allocate resources based on your/our priorities.

never happened before...Canada is a benign dictatorship that follows party lines...the only time the voter's priorities are considered is just before an election when your money is used to buy your vote...then the promises are broken, and the cycle starts again

 

[JM01]

it is a large, diverse country and it is unrealistic to think that at some point everyone from Victoria to St. Johns will have a common, unified choice.

why stop at 4 states? we should just chop it up into 13 states to represent each of these cultural and geographic differences... oh wait, we already have a provincial system.

we used to speak with one voice...but that stopped with Lester Pearson's era...i think what happened is that all these other voices began to speak and realized that someone was actually listening...too bad they were French, socialist, conservative, and regional voices

the provincial system is a good example of an adversarial, selfish system that looks out 13 unique interests...but i'd love to see an Ontario Armed Forces and Ontario enbassies around the world...wonder if Ontario would be a member of the U.N.?

Anyway, this is no place to discuss Canadian issue as this board is strickly Eastern Canada and reserved for mtb discussions.

best wishes for a great christmas and a safe and prosperous new year

 

[nogearshere]

never happened before...Canada is a benign dictatorship that follows party lines...the only time the voter's priorities are considered is just before an election when your money is used to buy your vote...then the promises are broken, and the cycle starts again

naive, i will admit to no more than optimistic...
if this democracy was used corrrectly by the good citizens then the elected officials could be held accountable. promises would not be broken for fear of retribution. the only thing benign about the system is voter/citizen involvement. maybe we just watch to much fox and cnn?

 

[JM01]

no fox, i'm a bbc and aljazeera boy

naive, i will admit to no more than optimistic...
if this democracy was used corrrectly by the good citizens then the elected officials could be held accountable. promises would not be broken for fear of retribution. the only thing benign about the system is voter/citizen involvement. maybe we just watch to much fox and cnn?

its not watching too much news...its being at an age that you remember all the times that the politicians have let you and the country down...Martin is just another case of deja vu, all over again (sort of like living in a remake of Groundhog Day)

the only way to ensure accountability is to devise a simple recall system, so that if a politician breaks a promise, they get fired...but then you would need another election to replace them. In Canada, it would be an election that never ends

i like the british system, where the civil service tracks the promises made during an election and drafts the necessary legislation to enact each promise for every party...then, regardless who wins, the bills are in place are can be put to a vote ASAP

anyway, this is a mtb board