Heh, well I appreciate the thought. It doesn't matter a lot anyway, I'm just curious. I was really close to ordering a Renegade but then I heard about the upcoming Salsa Journeyman that sounds like it will be a similar bike. I'm going to wait and see what that's about before I commit. Details will be released is in a couple of weeks.Well I would measure for you if I had a 54. Unfortunately I have a 56.