REVIEWS DEALS BIKESHOPS TRAILS

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1378 Views 20 Replies 6 Participants Last post by BKnight, Jun 29, 2006

BKnight

Discussion Starter · Jun 25, 2006

who would like to go? not to difficult intermediat+, but definatly need to know how to ride. i'm on call for work, so lets try and get a couple dates worked out.

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craigstr

· #2 · Jun 25, 2006

Just there today

Ridden it twice this week, you have to ride the 5 miles to the top then start your descent, the best single track is on the top before all the stunts, trail in great shape though

BKnight

Discussion Starter · #3 · Jun 26, 2006

hmm, sweet, what if we could get a shuttle service with a couple cars? you got any pics

craigstr

· #4 · Jun 26, 2006

Just Ride Up!!

You gotta earn your turns!!

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xtrememaniak

· #5 · Jun 26, 2006

I'm game Friday June 30, or Sat July 1. Just hit me with a time and directions there.

BKnight

Discussion Starter · #6 · Jun 26, 2006

looks like its going to be a fair bit cooler over in truckee then here, so that will be nice. where do you live at, we'll pick a meeting place/time based on that.

how do you get to the SS up on top. when we drove up we got the the big boulder drop then just went down, is there any thing above that?

kidwoo

· #7 · Jun 26, 2006

I'd normally make some self-righteuos post about not leaving shuttle trucks at the top of this but the forest service already knows all about it and according to one of them that ran into a friend of mine a few days ago, they're tearing it up pretty soon. Some bs about "man-made features being too dangerous". She rode up on a motorcycle and came accross him buffing out a berm.

Get it while you can.

BKnight

Discussion Starter · #8 · Jun 26, 2006

you've gotta be kidding, tearing it up :madmax: i figured it was common use to leave a shuttle car up there, looks like theres a parking area up there. how hard is the ride up from the bottum? i don't think i'm in quiet good enough shape to be goin up 5 miles in 85+ heat

kidwoo

· #9 · Jun 26, 2006

I've ridden that trail a lot and I've never shuttled it, even on a 40ish lb bike. It's not bad at all.

I'm sure the shuttle trucks certainly brought attention to it though. Common use still doesn't mean legal trail unfortunately.

Rather than deal with the hundreds of miles of poorly graded logging roads dumping sh1t into the creeks and lakes every spring, apparently this is a higher priority.....keeping you safe from yourself. USFS sucks.

BKnight

Discussion Starter · #10 · Jun 26, 2006

ya, pretty gay all around. get this, the local 4wheel group went to clean up peavine on saturday, and the forest service wouldn't let them pull the broken burned shot up cars out, said they ahd to be put on a trailer. i mean honestly if some ones trying to help just let them, jezz.

well, we should definatly do it before its closed down. i like the trail. maybe they should jsut post a sign that says its dangerous?

wolfy

· #11 · Jun 26, 2006

Is this the trail above Donner Lake?

-M

craigstr

· #12 · Jun 26, 2006

No

No, there is another singletrack above donner lake with some small stunts, mostly logs and stuff. This trail is right out of Truckee off of 89. If you want directions PM me.

wolfy

· #13 · Jun 26, 2006

Is it a secret?

I was just up @ Sawtooth ridge trail and figured I'd go back and roam the other trails in the area.

-M

craigstr

· #14 · Jun 27, 2006

Not a secret

Just dont want anybody getting hot about posting directions for all to see. Sounds like the Forest Service is going to rip it all out anyway. There are tons of ladders, boulders, gap jumps, log rides, and some great technical singletrack, you should go do it before it disapears.

xtrememaniak

· #15 · Jun 27, 2006

I hate when the state has to intervene. When I lived in Massachusetts we packed garbage bags in our camelbacks to clean up our favorite riding spot. Spent many days picking up and riding out with full garbage bags. By the next summer they had started putting houses on our hot spot:madmax: . Send me a PM with the directions there. Like I said before anytime on Fri or Sat. I may even be able to grab a neighbor, we'll be heading out from the Spanish Springs area.

omegarider

· #16 · Jun 27, 2006

what ********..i would think the forest service has bigger things to worry about than a few moutain bikers riding on some logs. Whatever, it will just get built somewhere else..I live in truckee, always looking for peoiple to ride with. I will gladly ride that stuff this weekned if anyone is interested

wolfy

· #17 · Jun 27, 2006

Trails built w/o permission are a pretty big liability to a land manager. In the long term It doesn't do mountain bikers any real service. It'll just cause more restrictions.

There has to be a way though. Those skateboard parks work. Which amazes me. I've yet to see a helmet at one of those places (just driving by). Perhapse if gone through the proper channels something like that could be built for freeriding...

-M

kidwoo

· #18 · Jun 28, 2006

wolfy said:
Trails built w/o permission are a pretty big liability to a land manager. In the long term It doesn't do mountain bikers any real service. It'll just cause more restrictions.

There has to be a way though. Those skateboard parks work. Which amazes me. I've yet to see a helmet at one of those places (just driving by). Perhapse if gone through the proper channels something like that could be built for freeriding...

-M

That's a lot of irony and contradiction in one post. The first paragraph assumes some sort of long term harm based on nothing more than the assumption of an inevitable lawsuit......not a reasonable assumption at all I'd argue. Please don't get into the habit of substantiating that crap. That hurts the cause more than anything when your willing to concede that yes, someone WILL get sued. I've broken all kinds of bones mountain biking and skateboarding and have never even spoken to a lawyer on professional terms. Most people are this way.

Skateparks are exactly the kind of example to look towards though. I'm 31 years old and have lived life not skateboarding fewer years than I have. Same BS I heard when getting arrested at 13 for scratching up a curb. There's now an infrastructure than I never would have dreamed of back then. There's no reason this can't exist as a model for mountain bikes. Especially considering the average age of the participants is much greater but also more and more encompasses the kids. There has to be an expressed need......which I'd argue there certainly is. You live here, I'm assuming you have or will ride this trail. It's done well and it's also done sustainably in an area that's already been logged to sh1t several times over. It's hurting nothing and adding to the community. I mean the thing sits in truckee and you guys are crossing state lines to come ride it.....probably buy beer and lunch here too.

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wolfy

· #19 · Jun 28, 2006

The liability is what it is.

I like trails. Probably won't be riding much of that other stuff.

-M

BKnight

Discussion Starter · #20 · Jun 28, 2006

hell ya, when i came, we bought lunch an what not, and some books. they are building a place sorta, its open ground park i'm not sure if its going to open to mountian bikes, but its an indoor park. i'm definatly riding it friday or saturday, so who ever wants to go, hollar up and lets get soemthing planned

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