Well as I said I want a mtb that can do 80% road and 20% gravel/lite trail. Im 6'4" and 288lbs, with severe back problems. My weight and size are why Idont want a hybrid. Also my plans include a tall seatpost with a bigger m style saddle, a tall stem that will hold either tough BMX bars or some shorter Wald ape hanger bars. I dont need a shock up front either. I guess Im trying to make a heavy duty multi-speed cruiser. My bike now is an Iron Horse PT-4 with an interal nexus 4-speed, which is discontinued. I have both the seat post and stem up as high as they go. I have the ape hanger bars now, but with my stock stem the bars have a tendency to slide away or toward me. So Id like a better one, so basically a hybrid that sits way upright, that can do a beginner trail if need be. Thank so much for suggestions!! My lbs Im sure can get me a decient bike for the money. Cool, later Will.