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Is there any garment that actually wicks away sweat and keeps you dry

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I don’t mind ending a ride soaking in the warm weather but when it’s cold out, sweating is pretty awful. Are there any garments that can keep you warm and dry during cold weather riding?
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I don’t mind ending a ride soaking in the warm weather but when it’s cold out, sweating is pretty awful. Are there any garments that can keep you warm and dry during cold weather riding?
It can be done, just did it last night, it was around 15F.

But there are a few tenants that have to be observed:

Don't use too many layers, no matter how "breathable" they are, they won't breathe with too many. Usually more than 2 is too many, unless you are real cold and need to warm up, but sustained exertion in more than 2 layers is often a contributor to getting damp.

Waterproof membranes are not breathable. No matter what they claim, it just doesn't work for high exertion sports like mountain biking where you are often not moving fast, but outputting high (climb). Avoid waterproof membranes unless absolutely necessary for conditions, and even then you can still expect to get damp either due to this, or the fact that they tend to get overwhelmed in anything more than relatively light precip. They do help a bit trapping heat and creating a seperate warmer damp layer underneath, but you gotta play that one careful, because that can make you ultra-cold if your exertion falls way off. When it gets real cold, like down in to the 0F range and less, then the waterproof stuff can start to become more useful again, since it's cold enough to keep you from sweating bad and it helps to trap heat.

XC ski clothing has most of this figured out, it's a good template to use. XC ski pants can usually deal with a pretty wide range of temps, from nearly 50 down to the low positive F temps. This stuff often has a wind-proof front layer and the back layer is totally breathable stretch material.

You gotta manage it while you ride. Unzip the jacket, take it off and tie it around your waist if it's that warm, roll up your sleaves, put them down, etc. Stop and manage it. This step can often be a lot harder than it sounds, as in it's a mental challenge, but it makes a big positive difference when you are doing it.

Most people wear too much gear so that they are "comfortable" when they start, but 15 minutes later or on a climb, they are just pouring sweat. Gotta start colder than you think. Always bring an extra layer though as a bail out. Packable jackets are amazing. They even make relatively packable pants, size-zip stuff that can be put on relatively easily with the full side zips, if you are running a frame bag, it gives you the option to do stuff like this, but there are still ways to do it, like revelate feed-bags, etc.

It really depends on the temp range and the appropriate clothes and not over-doing it. Sometimes it's shorts and yoga pants or base-layer pants, sometimes it's the XC ski pants. Sometimes it's backcountry ski pants or in extreme situations, mountaineering pants, but within each of these options, you want the least amount you can get away with, realizing once you start exercising and your core temp goes up that you'll be warm. For the tops, as it gets colder we will often put on a down puffy over our outer jacket if it gets cold enough, down packs to a small size great, but there's also the packable jackets I was talking about above for warmer climates. It helps to have a few different thicknesses of soft-shell jackets, like a super light one for warmer conditions, a thicker one for colder conditions. Same thing with base layers. IME, having a few different thickness base layer options and the right features on the base layer is far more important than whether it is made out of synthetic or sheep's butt hair. And in that same vein, synthetic breathes better and dries faster, sometimes while you are riding. When you get it home, make sure to dry it out immediately, even if you are dry, you often still carry a little dampness, don't throw it in a basket with other stuff on top so it can fester. It will work great as long as you keep it dry.

Try not to wear a pack, that will generally cause more sweating. A hip pack is a little better, but no pack is best.

So in summary, the #1 thing I see is people wearing too much clothes, either too thick, or too many layers. This may be related to people not knowing how to bring extra clothes with them. The 2nd one is usually people wearing "waterproof" stuff. The third is not adjusting their gear, opening up, unzipping, taking on/off, etc.

It would help to know what kind of temperature range we are talking about though.
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With extended climbing, I find any good wicking synthetic base layer (they are kinda pricey) does well...like Terramar. They keep you the driest. I also use lots of merino base layers that don't wick AS well but wool stays warm even when wet/damp. I use Castelli, Icebreaker, Specialized. Specialized makes a hybrid merino/polyester that works really well too. Then I layer as needed but I generally don't bundle up much. Even in 15 degrees, I will wear a base layer, a thin mid layer and a heavy shell or a thicker merino mid layer and a think shell if windy.
I was going to say....wool. Humans are amazing creatures that have developed some pretty incredible synthetic fibers...but I have yet to encounter a better all-around fiber than wool. Chosen and used correctly, they wick well enough, keep you both warm and cool (if that makes sense), and don't develop the wretched stink that synthetics do. I agree with Jayem that most people simply wear too much. You have to go through the motions a few times to figure out the sweet spots.
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Merino wool. Smartwool long sleeve shirts are like magic.
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wool and silk

some synthetics work great but good luck finding ones that work and don't reek

wool and silk, always findable, always works
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Thanks, now I can't shake the image of you pulling up to the trail head all like:

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A couple of years ago I picked up some sleeveless synthetic base layers on clears out, they work amazingly well at keeping that inner layer dry. But really if the next layer is wet you still have same issues.

For riding in the cool (Freezing to 10C) the highend roadie stuff is ticket. I have a Castellie Gabba jersey and it is freaking amazing. It is my goto riding gear for any conditions between 0C-10C.
There are several ultra light weight wind shirts on the market. I'm not talking about a windbreaker that cuts out 99% of the wind. Something like the Patagonia Houdini or Mountain Hardwear Kor Preshell. They pack down to the size of a tennis ball. They block enough wind that you will feel comfortable in a light weight long sleeve base layer down to some seriously cold weather. I've hike in freezing weather using my wind shirt and just a light 100wt fleece layer on without getting hot and sweaty. And they breath like you don't have them on. They are always my #1 go to outer layer when doing aerobic activity in the cold. Looks for any light weight shell made from Pertex Quantum fabric. Montane makes some. Mountain Hardwear. Patagonia's Houdini is very similar.

I was going to find a link to one but this guy has a review on the Mountain Hardwear version that sums up my feelings exactly.

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If you're maxing out and sweating a LOT? No.
You'll just have to add/remove layers to manage sweat, unless you're titrating activity down enough to manage that.
Back country skiing, on the climbs, I've had to shed darn near everything. A nice steady level of exertion snow shoeing, I can pretty much manage it with the right clothing. So, it depends.
There are several ultra light weight wind shirts on the market. I'm not talking about a windbreaker that cuts out 99% of the wind. Something like the Patagonia Houdini or Mountain Hardwear Kor Preshell. They pack down to the size of a tennis ball. They block enough wind that you will feel comfortable in a light weight long sleeve base layer down to some seriously cold weather. I've hike in freezing weather using my wind shirt and just a light 100wt fleece layer on without getting hot and sweaty. And they breath like you don't have them on. They are always my #1 go to outer layer when doing aerobic activity in the cold. Looks for any light weight shell made from Pertex Quantum fabric. Montane makes some. Mountain Hardwear. Patagonia's Houdini is very similar.

I was going to find a link to one but this guy has a review on the Mountain Hardwear version that sums up my feelings exactly.

Not really on topic, but as an outer layer, my Houdini gets more wear year round than anything I own. I wore it yesterday (and my daughter wore hers) biking for 4 hours in minus 5 C temps.

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I can squeeze it, and a whack of other stuff, into one of two sides of a Bontrager Rapid Pack. That Houdini is indeed magical.
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I don’t mind ending a ride soaking in the warm weather but when it’s cold out, sweating is pretty awful. Are there any garments that can keep you warm and dry during cold weather riding?
sortof.

the garments themselves are only part of the equation. The other part of the equation is your layering technique.

When it's cold out, an optimal layering technique for high exertion activity is going to mean you're cold when you aren't exerting yourself. Such as before you start your ride or if you ever stop during it. Which means if you want to be warm during those times, too, then you'll need to adjust your layering for those times (meaning - pack warmer layers for those occasions).

Multiple thin layers is always better than fewer thick/bulky/insulative layers when you're being active.
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In the winter I can usually get by with a wool base layer with a short sleeve jersey over it. This dries very well but isn't going to cut it below freezing.
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I have been riding through brutal winters now (commuting and fat biking) for a long time. I am still learning every single time out, and it’s often a situation of trying to anticipate things and make adjustments before you are drenched in sweat, or so cold you can’t recover. I like merino wool. It has vocal detractors on this forum. FOR ME, it is breathable, lightweight, still highly insulating when wet, and it dries quickly. Plus, amazingly, it doesn’t stink.
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Not really on topic, but as an outer layer, my Houdini gets more wear year round than anything I own. I wore it yesterday (and my daughter wore hers) biking for 4 hours in minus 5 C temps.
I mention the Houdini and Kor Preshell style jackets and windshirts because for me they are more important in keeping me warm and dry in the cold weather than the base layer I wear underneath. They block wind without getting sweaty and feeling clammy. It's an excellent layer to regulate your body temperature without getting sweaty which is what I think the OP wants in the end. From freezing weather to spring time 60 degree weather mine always find a use especially during any aerobic activity.
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sortof.

the garments themselves are only part of the equation. The other part of the equation is your layering technique.

When it's cold out, an optimal layering technique for high exertion activity is going to mean you're cold when you aren't exerting yourself. Such as before you start your ride or if you ever stop during it. Which means if you want to be warm during those times, too, then you'll need to adjust your layering for those times (meaning - pack warmer layers for those occasions).

Multiple thin layers is always better than fewer thick/bulky/insulative layers when you're being active.
It is an art to adjust your clothing on the fly.

My gloves come on and off all the time. When I hit a climb I will pull the gloves off and stuff them down the front of my jersey. I also find a buff around the neck is amazing for adjusting my covering on the fly.
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I've had good luck with under armour.

Agree with above, keeping dry and not starting to sweat too much is important.

I'd rather start a ride feeling chilly, instead of bundling up too much and then having to peal layers after 10 minutes.

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It is an art to adjust your clothing on the fly.

My gloves come on and off all the time. When I hit a climb I will pull the gloves off and stuff them down the front of my jersey. I also find a buff around the neck is amazing for adjusting my covering on the fly.
It's definitely an art. You have to figure out what works for you in your specific local conditions.

This is the time of year that I've always got a windbreaker layer in my pack. Mine is a Specialized something or other with zipoff arms. It's water resistant enough for light drizzle. It blocks wind well, so it's good to don for big descents. The zipoff arms come into play for thermal regulation when it's cold and/or windy enough that I need the core protection on a climb, but I need to vent excess heat. Venting excess heat through your extremities tends to work pretty well.

But everyone's bodies are different. Different heat/cold tolerances, differences in circulation and thermal mass, different climates and conditions, etc. Personally, I run hot, so I always need to work on venting excess heat. But I don't do so with my hands and feet. I usually work out my layering strategy so I'm venting heat through the top of my head and my arms/legs. My core gets more layers, I make sure I keep my ears covered, and I make sure that my hands and feet get good wind blocking layers. Speaking of, my warmer gloves are all getting worn out, so I need to look at replacing them.
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If you're maxing out and sweating a LOT? No.
You'll just have to add/remove layers to manage sweat, unless you're titrating activity down enough to manage that.
Back country skiing, on the climbs, I've had to shed darn near everything. A nice steady level of exertion snow shoeing, I can pretty much manage it with the right clothing. So, it depends.
It's tricky though, because even going downhill while BC skiing, you can still produce a lot of heat and exertion, you definitely have to button up, but it's not that bad. What's bad is waiting around at the top, especially on a colder day, but being able to manage this on a bike as far as bringing layers that can be easily shed or easily stored is the tricky part. When you start going downhill on a bike, your exertion drops to near zero and the wind chill goes way into the negatives.
It's tricky though, because even going downhill while BC skiing, you can still produce a lot of heat and exertion, you definitely have to button up, but it's not that bad. What's bad is waiting around at the top, especially on a colder day, but being able to manage this on a bike as far as bringing layers that can be easily shed or easily stored is the tricky part. When you start going downhill on a bike, your exertion drops to near zero and the wind chill goes way into the negatives.
I sweat a lot for a fat boy. My uphill B/C garb borders on indecent exposure. On the lift served runs, I can usually get away with 30 seconds of "flashing" skiing up to the lift.
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