originally posted by kapusta
I don't think it should be a problem achieving a smooth ride and bottoming resistance on a 5.5" frame if you are looking at 3 foot drops to flat
true, i haven't found a problem with damping resistance when they are limited to 3'.. though lately, more occasionally i will go bigger, and if i don't land just right on the tranny.. that's when i feel, i could use some more resistance..
originally posted by fsrxc
As was mentioned, you may need a custom tune so that Propedal is light enough for the VPP suspension to work.
yes, i hardly use the Propedal on the RP3, and when i do, it is barely noticeable except that it may just may slightly retract from the small bump sensitivity the RP3 gives when Propedal gives is in the lightest setting..
originally posted by Ronnie
I remembered a thread from about a year ago with a discussion about VPP not needing a platform shock, with input from guys at Intense.
:thumbsup: cheers, very interesting read.. with sime links to other interesting reads! i think i actually remember reading something along those same lines.. though there wasn't any input from a 2nd or 3rd party (or people from Intense for that matter!), guess i should just do some more thorough searches in here instead of asking questions that have already been answered! (in one way or another)
originally posted by BanzaiRider (in above mentioned thread)
I'm curious to know if anyone has tried a non platform shock on a VPP suspension yet (6.6, 5.5, VPX, Nomad or Blur)? If so how does it pedal, does it bob a lot? On small bumps going downhill, does it perform better than the platform shock?
originally posted by
n10'sGuy
Yes by all means do to the torque sensitivity of the VPP drive train it lends itself much better than MOST other designs on the market today to non platform dampers. The original VPP's were amazing with simple shocks that had no platform jimi jami stuff. BTW most peeps setup their VPPs with minimum SPV or minimum propedal, its simply not needed.
IMHO IF you took the simplest damper, with no fancy platform circuitry and mounted it to all the various multi link, FSR, faux bar, whatever, the VPP would show as a clear winner in functionality it would pedal better and descend better. Pedaling is enhanced by VPP torque sensitivity and descending is enhanced by the rearward wheel path. This would be a great test for a magazine to do! A back to back to back test, one simple damper and all the popular frame designs.
that does actually remind me of a review i once read of the Intense 5.5 w/ RP3 a while ago.. the reviewer did rave about rear end suspension, though IMO he started to focused a little too much on the RP3, as he couldn't really decipher much of a difference between the 3 Propedal settings! this surely is a testament to the pedalling efficiency of the Intense designed VPP rear end! (i just had a quick search to try find this review.. tho to no avail.. it might've even been in a mag.. not sure..)
in the same thread, where i pulled the above question which was answered by n10'sGuy..
BanzaiRider states: Don't worry (n10'sGuy), aappling72 will be doing that test for us soon!
anyone know where i can find this? could be some interesting reading...
looks like i'm now looking for a shock completely w/o any type of SPV/Propedal/Platform..! cheers for your responses fellas.. great to have got one step closer in finding the right rear-end suspeneion that really suits the bike and how i want it to feel underneath me... (of course the best way is trial and error.. though when you "work to eat, eat to live, live to ride, and ride to work".. you don't really have a lot of money to throw around!)
... though this is why i'm enquiring about the effectiveness of coil bottom-out resistance on 'relatively short-travel' frames compared to what they're normally found on (longer travel FR/DH bikes)..
