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Is a quick release as strong as a nutted axle?

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I have a single speed with horizontal sliding dropouts. It has a nutted axle in the back. I was thinking about getting a new wheelset built with quick release rear axle. Would the QR hold the rear wheel in place in the dropouts as strong as a nutte axle? I'm concerned that I might have slippage problems with a QR. Any thoughts?
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If you use chain tugs along with a good qr you should not have any probs.
krokus454 said:
I have a single speed with horizontal sliding dropouts. It has a nutted axle in the back. I was thinking about getting a new wheelset built with quick release rear axle. Would the QR hold the rear wheel in place in the dropouts as strong as a nutte axle? I'm concerned that I might have slippage problems with a QR. Any thoughts?
No, a QR won't hold a strong. But you can purchace doodads called "chain tugs" that hold the axle in place, thereby allowing you to use a QR without slippage. I use such a system on my horiz dropout On-One... never a slip.

--Sparty
nut tuggers work great with QR axles, and really should be used with a nutted axle anyways because overtightening the nuts can mangle the dropouts, especially if aluminum.
If you have sliding dropouts QR will be fine. Track ends or horizontal dropouts I would go with bolt on and some chain tugs, although I run my fixed without tugs and I have never had an issue with slipping.
Another caveat is all QR's are not created equal. The interior cam (Shimano and Campy) are far superior to exterior cam (Salsa, Mavic and all the rest). I actually had a front QR pull out from the fork dropouts with disc brakes. If you do decided to go with QR's, make sure they are Shimano or Campy.
i had tons of disc brake jack slippage with both a mavic, and a salsa on my track ends in steel. I moved to an XT skewer and no issues since.

If I ever do build up a new SS specific wheel, i debate going bolt on hub.
ISuckAtRiding said:
nut tuggers work great with QR axles, and really should be used with a nutted axle anyways because overtightening the nuts can mangle the dropouts, especially if aluminum.
My frame is steel, but I would be interested in purchasing some. Can I buy directly from you?
mattKHS said:
...I moved to an XT skewer and no issues since...
I bought one off the bay and it was not XT as seller claimed and pictured, so I sent it back. :madmax:

Where's a good place to buy genuine XT skewerw online for good price?
Great info everyone. One more question. Is it very hard to convert a hub from an axle to QR or vice versa?
aka brad said:
Another caveat is all QR's are not created equal. The interior cam (Shimano and Campy) are far superior to exterior cam (Salsa, Mavic and all the rest). I actually had a front QR pull out from the fork dropouts with disc brakes. If you do decided to go with QR's, make sure they are Shimano or Campy.
I am , by no means, a newcomer to wrenching bikes, but reading this was a revelation.... I never really made the distimction between internal and external cam QR's....... THANK YOU.................. I'll have to start wearing my "Mr.Know-it-all" shirt in-side-out.
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