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so i'm looking at building up a new full suspension. i want to be able to use it for both freeride and race dh on it. i'd probably build it up with a 888 or a boxxer. do you think it'll fair well racing or should i get a more dh oriented bike?

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i don't think the dirtbag would make a great racer.. it's more of a thick huck bike.
It's quite heavy, and the geo is more freeride oriented.

having said that, i've seen people race on Dirtbags... but i bet a DHR or a Sunday would feel miles better on a race course.


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Top Tube (Effective) 21.1" 22.4" 23.8"
Top Tube (Actual) 20.5" 21.75" 23.0"
Seat Tube (center to top) 16" 17" 18"
Head Tube Angle 66.5° 66.5° 66.5°
Seat Tube Angle 73° 73° 73°
ChainStay Length 17.25" 17.25" 17.25"
Bottom Bracket Height 14.35" 14.35" 14.35"
Standover 30.2" 30.4" 30.6"
Wheelbase 43.4" 44.7" 46.3"
Head Tube Length 4.725" 4.725" 4.725"
Max Rear Tire Clearance 26" x 3.0" 26" x 3.0" 26" x 3.0"
Rear Hub Spacing 135mm 135mm 135mm
Rear Dropout Axle Size 10mm 10mm 10mm
Head Tube 1.5" 1.5" 1.5"
BB Shell Width 73mm 73mm 73mm

Grand Mal
Top Tube (Effective) 22.5" 24"
Top Tube (Actual) 21.9" 23.3"
Seat Tube (center to top) 16.1" 16.1"
Head Tube Angle 66° (Adjustable) 66° (Adjustable)
Seat Tube Angle 74° 74°
ChainStay Length 17.5" 17.5"
Bottom Bracket Height 14.6" (Adjustable) 14.6" (Adjustable)
Standover 31.9" 30.9"
Wheelbase 45.75" 47.25"
Head Tube Length 4.725" 4.725"
Max Rear Tire Clearance 26" x 2.8" 26" x 2.8"
Rear Hub Spacing 150mm 150mm
Rear Dropout Axle Size 12mm 12mm
Head Tube 1.5" 1.5"
BB Shell Width 83mm 83mm

what about the geometries makes the grand mal more racey? they're almost the same except the dbag has a slightly lower bottom bracket, shorter chainstays (which i want) and an inch shorter wheelbase. see the thing is i don't feel like i need a 9'' travel bike. i've ridden hardtails for years, this is going to be my first full suspension bike. I already keep up with the full sus guys on my ht so i feel like if travel is the only limiting factor of the dirtbag i'd be ok. plus i don't only want to race this thing so i think the grand mal might be alittle too much bike for me. so am i missing something?
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