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I put in my order for a Spider 29 frame today and discovered the intro has been delayed a few weeks, to like the first of August. Intense had planned to start welding up the first ones today. I got no details, but it seems the gang at Intense decided on some last minute frame tweeks. Oh well, I am in line, that is something. I will give more updates when I have them, perhaps someone from Intense will chime in with more info. BTW, this is no shill, I don't work at Intense or sell their stuff. I would even be eligible for any contest they ran where they gave away stuff.