Right now we are trying to do the combo of really short stems and steep seat angles. Even with longer top tubes this makes bikes too short in the seated position. If we are going to stick with steep seat angles then top tubes are going to have to get longer or we are going to have to try a bit longer stems again.
Personally I have gone the longer stem route. I put a (gasp) 60mm stem (versus the stock 35mm) on my Enduro bike. The bike feels great, honestly the only thing I notice is the bike seems to fit better, no negative handling traits.
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