[JFoster]

In case anyone cares to check it out or help with some of my noob questions

I have been riding an '03 Specialized HR since I bought it new (first mtb). Been itching for a newer DJ style 26er for awhile, but couldn't justify the cost. Ended up getting this one for $100 and it was local so no shipping :thumbsup: Its never been used but from looking at the mongoose site its not a current year model, maybe someone will chime in with the year.

I have never built a bike from just a fame before, so I haven't done anything with BBs or headsets. I guess any 1 1/8" headset will do?
And is an "standard American bottom bracket" what most all BMX bike run?
I like the idea of BMX cranks anyway ...

I sold my books back for a whopping $71 today so if I could pick up a crankset and bb for that I would be set. I plan to rob my HR of what I can to get it going. It has a new set of Azonic Outlaws and BB7s, as well as an '05 DJ3 that will get me by for now.

Its no MOB but I don't need a MOB anyway. Fun on a budget is what I am after. Thanks for any help.

 

[droptopchevy]

Looks like an 05'
Do you have all of the tools for a building a bike?

 

[JFoster]

Well I have alot of auto mechanic tools, but no I don't have a crank arm puller or a cup press.

I found the tech section on danscomp and it pretty much covers what I need to do.
http://www.danscomp.com/serve.php?serve=faq&html=faqs_tech.htm

I think I can do the headset with my rubber mallet as they suggest, or even in the vice. As for the cranks I am hoping I won't have to pull them back off, but if I do I think my 2 arm ball joint puller will work.

Now to find some cheap parts.

 

[spazzy]

looks pretty good for an unused 05. I am running an 07 ritual and i love it,great bike!

here is a 3 piece crankset with bottom bracket for 50, and you would just have to buy a chainring (cheap)

http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=27252

i dont know anything about it but im sure someone else will chime in...

 

[jeffgothro]

Thats an american BB. Dont worry to much about installing it, its a piece of cake like the headset...its pretty hard to f*ck up intalling one - in fact, I find headsets harder to install in making sure I remember if the actual bearings cages are installed face up or face down. Cool frame, looks like a rider.

I call this face down.

 

[JFoster]

thanks for the replies

I found this Poverty crankset on danscomp for $50 as well

http://www.danscomp.com/451053.php?cat=PARTS

Can anyone say if ones better than the other?

 

[jeffgothro]

If your going to skimp on the cranks at least get decent ones, those povertys are garbage.

Redline Monsters

74.00 free ship.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Redline-BMX-Mon...ryZ48843QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

in chrome

http://cgi.ebay.com/Redline-BMX-Mon...ryZ48843QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Standard Redlines.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Redline-Proline...yZ158982QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I dont know how much your willing to spend...but I would just get some profiles over anything I've posted, yeah, they cost a bit more, but they will be the last set of cranks you should have to buy for a while.

 

[XSL_WiLL]

I agree. Drop the extra coin and get something decent. Profile cranks have a pretty decent warranty if you do manage to mess them up.

 

[JFoster]

Well $50 was looking really good ... but I could do $75... would rather not go higher than that, need money for handle bars as well.

Would you say those Redline monsters would be better than these Voxoms?

Also $75 shipped

 

[jeffgothro]

I would go with the monsters, simply because they are sealed bearing and a good reputable brand with a good track record, everyting you've posted is roller bearing, and while nothing is wrong with that generally its better to buy sealed, they are smoother and tend to keep dirt out more and I honesly think you will like them better.

 

[XSL_WiLL]

I would go with the monsters, simply because they are sealed bearing and a good reputable brand with a good track record, everyting you've posted is roller bearing, and while nothing is wrong with that generally its better to buy sealed, they are smoother and tend to keep dirt out more and I honesly think you will like them better.

They're not roller bearings, just unsealed balls. Unsealed balls CAN roll quite smoothly, but the bearings and races are typically pretty spotty on those low end sets. It can always be replaced with a sealed bottom bracket later...

 

[jeffgothro]

un-sealed, caged, rollers - (un-sealed) I spose of you want to get technical about it, to me they are one and the same.

Actually, I think alot of sealed bearings probably use a cage, but the cages may have less bearings in them.I forgot what brand it was but I tore a sealed bearing apart once - it rolled smooth as glass, much to my surprize (was my first time tearing a sealed bearing apart) it had a caged bearing inside with 4 evenly spaced bearings inside a steel cage.

I dont believe my Solid crank bearings use a cage, I was repairing the plastic dust cover (it got a slight tweak from my screw driver hitting it) and if I remember it had loose ball bearings inside the cup and there was a race in the cup.

I've also seen a Bullseye bearings from the inside, for the cranks they use a caged needle bearing.

 

[XSL_WiLL]

Balls and needle/roller bearings are quite different.

 

[JFoster]

Alright, well I'll probably order the Redlines on monday unless you guys think I can find better for $75.

I was also looking at the $16 Aheadset from danscomp

But now I am kind of thinking $25 shipped for this FSA pig might be a good deal
http://cgi.ebay.com/FSA-Pig-Headset...ryZ56189QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Unless someone has something bad to say about it. It's $40 on danscomp.

Still looking at $30 for a seat, $13 for a post, probably $5 for a clamp, $20 for pedals, probably $35 for handle bars, grips, a front brake lever without a shifter, chain ring...

 

[XSL_WiLL]

The Pig is alright. If you pay a few bucks more you can have the Pig DH Pro with sealed cartridge bearings.

 

[hardrocker77]

You can out a headset in with a rubber mallet? I'm hopefully going to get a new frame for Christmas, and will be putting a new headset in it, so I can do it myself with out a press? Is this hard? I can do bout everything on the bike cept for crank(have a friend with the tools for this)/headset removal install because I dont have the tools, should I try this? It would save me from going to the shop and having to pay.

 

[JFoster]

You can out a headset in with a rubber mallet? I'm hopefully going to get a new frame for Christmas, and will be putting a new headset in it, so I can do it myself with out a press? Is this hard? I can do bout everything on the bike cept for crank(have a friend with the tools for this)/headset removal install because I dont have the tools, should I try this? It would save me from going to the shop and having to pay.

I linked to the danscomp how to section in my second post.

 

[JFoster]

How would you say these Odyssey 41 Thermals compare to the Redlines?

I tried to find some more info on their site but its under construction. Wondering what they usually sell for.

 

[jeffgothro]

http://goodsbmx.com/odyssey41-thermalcranks.aspx

 

[JFoster]

Thanks, I ended up finding them on flatlandfuel.com as well for $89 also without a bb. I guess I'll wait and see what they go for on ebay and if they get too high fall back on the redlines. I hate to wait though, I am so anxious to ride this bike.