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I'm thinking pike or talas 130. Right now I have a z1 but I want to put my 5-spot on a diet. Any suggestions?
 

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It really depends on what type of riding you like to do. Many are using the Pike and love it. I have seen TALAS forks on many 5 spots and they seem to be well recieved as well. I personally use a Vanilla 130 and am very happy with it, but see my self sending it to PUSH over the summer. I would check the Turner board and look under the Spot Setup Database and see what you find there. You will see that the Pike, Talas, and Vanilla are very common and well liked for various applications.

Good luck with your search and let us know what you choose. :D
 

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130mm for most of the time and extend out to 150 mm for serious decending days
ETA locks down to 110 for climbing and it coil / air so little lighter
love mine
 

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Earl Scheib said:
I'm thinking pike or talas 130. Right now I have a z1 but I want to put my 5-spot on a diet. Any suggestions?
If you're looking for lighter weight, the RS Revalation would be a good match for the Spot. Regular QR, not 20mm like the Pike. Lighter and less expensive than a Talas. You can save some cash for the PUSH mods later. :D
 

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I went from a Pushed Vanilla to a Revelation

Homebrew said:
If you're looking for lighter weight, the RS Revalation would be a good match for the Spot. Regular QR, not 20mm like the Pike. Lighter and less expensive than a Talas. You can save some cash for the PUSH mods later. :D
The Revelation is lighter and better with far more adjustability. Love the Revelation! No comparison. Plus, it is an inexpensive fork. I think I saw Universal had it on sale for $340 or something (dual air w/ poplock). I cannot see a reason in the world to Push it.

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What year is your Z1? If it is 04 or 05, the TALAS or revelation will feel like real noodles, same goes for a Vanilla or a Float. I wouldn't go that route. PIKE will keep you at the same stiffness category at a lower weight.

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I just ordered me a Revelation sans poploc......I hope it fits the bill.

I couldnt do the pike, all of my bike mounts on cars are set up for regular axle.
 

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Vanilla 130 Pushed

be350ka said:
It really depends on what type of riding you like to do. Many are using the Pike and love it. I have seen TALAS forks on many 5 spots and they seem to be well recieved as well. I personally use a Vanilla 130 and am very happy with it, but see my self sending it to PUSH over the summer. I would check the Turner board and look under the Spot Setup Database and see what you find there. You will see that the Pike, Talas, and Vanilla are very common and well liked for various applications.
Is very hard to beat, just does everthing right and the PUSH mod is worth gold: best fork I ever tried. See http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=140494 for a comparison Vanilla-Vanilla/ID-Vanilla/PUSH and also for a project/PUSH 5-spot (reviewing the great rp3/PUSH) here http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?postid=1346486#post1346486.

However, I am very finnicky when it comes to asset and I find the 130 a bit too tall for the 5-spot (that was indeed designed around a Fox 125mm). Becasue you are giving up the ETA a Talas might be a better option, or you can make custom spacers to adjust the vanilla see http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=152451. A Float would be even easier to adjust travel-wise and a FLOAT RLC/PUSH offers a huge amount of adjustability.

Good luck
:) :)
 

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Davide said:
I find the 130 a bit too tall for the 5-spot (it was designed around the Fox 125mm).
Hey Davide, I don' t think that this is actually true, not that you feel 130 being too much, but 5 Spot being designed around 125mm Fox. Spot was designed around a 500mm axle-to-crown fork, if I recall correctly, which means that 125mm Fox (495mm a2c) is 5mm shorter than what the Spot was designed around, whereas 130mm one is spot on, so to speak. The fact that you prefer 125 is a separate issue as I preffer a 130mm Marzocchi.

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Hey Davide, I don' t think that this is actually true, not that you feel 130 being too much, but 5 Spot being designed around 125mm Fox. Spot was designed around a 500mm axle-to-crown fork, if I recall correctly, which means that 125mm Fox (495mm a2c) is 5mm shorter than what the Spot was designed around, whereas 130mm one is spot on, so to speak. The fact that you prefer 125 is a separate issue as I preffer a 130mm Marzocchi.

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Oh ... I am sure you are right, I remember posts in Turner-forum years ago where people were making this statement, but my memory, or those posts, can easily be wrong. But anyway, yes of course asset is VERY personal, since it depends so much on body shape, and the 125 (well really it is 126 right now for a 497 a2C ... ah! ... stop it Davide! :rolleyes: ) is indeed just what I like ... ;)
 

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Earl Scheib said:
I'm thinking pike or talas 130. Right now I have a z1 but I want to put my 5-spot on a diet. Any suggestions?
Pike air u-turn every day and double time on weekends. I used to have a Vanilla 130 on my 5 Spot. No interest in looking back.
 

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Earl Scheib said:
my z1 is 04'
Then definatelly a PIKE. I got an 04 Z1 when they were being blown out on ebay, last year, as an upgrade from a 05 Vanilla RLC. I loved my 04 Vanilla when it was on a Burner so I went out and bought a brand new 130 for the Spot. It was noticiebly flexy. In cornering and hard braking it was much too apparent. The Z1 eliminated those issues. I would not imagine taking the step back in the Fox direction. Go with the PIKE.

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Pike air u-turn every day and double time on weekends. I used to have a Vanilla 130 on my 5 Spot. No interest in looking back.
off topic, what's the dilly with the murderer's stake?
 

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yah.

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off topic, what's the dilly with the murderer's stake?
Kinda wierd huh. "Murderers" is the name of this trail. Black diamond rated in a motorcycle ohv riding area in Auburn, Calif. Very popular trail with the downhillers.

Here is a picture I took of Randy Spangler, a pro freerider/DHer charging on the bottom of this trail. The bottom stretch of trail is called "Rocky".
 

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Davide had it right. The 5 Spot was originally designed with the Fox Vanilla 125. I remember talking to Dave Turner about that when I was buying my Spot (May, 2003). Dave recommended the Vanilla as the perfect fork for that bike.

When I told DT that I was buying a Z1FR, he thght it would be too tall. He said that it wouldn't void any warranties, but he recommended the V125. I wanted to use the Vanilla, but at the time, the Vanillas had an issue with a clunking sound, while climbing, that drove me insane.

I'm extremely happy with the Z1, btw.
 
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