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what do you think is better first of all, a 32 hole hub and rim or a 36 hole hub and rim. does it really make a difference in strenght. so with that said. go with a i9 32 dh hub laced to a mavic ex 823 rim or a dt swiss 36 hole hub laced to a ex 823 rim. does the 32 have less strenght then the 36 hole. hopefully you guys understand my question
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brillantesdv said:
32 hole setup by a good wheel builder should be plenty strong enough
this is true
....but I still like the 36.......and I wouldn't get an I9........might want to try Hadleys and 823's been running those for 6 years plus
 

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Come to think of it, I own all three, LOL (340 tho, not the 440 DT)!

I9
The good: bling factor and BEST engagement.
The bad: bearings are VERY average, very noisy and rolling resistance is PATHETIC!

DT
The good: Reliable and relatively quiet. Smooth rolling.
The bad: Engagement? What's that??? If you ride skinnies and ladders... MOVE ALONG!

Hadley
The good: Reliable, quiet, very strong, roll and roll with amazingly low rolling resistance, excellent engagement (not quite as good as I9 but close enough).
The bad: Have to service a little more often than a normal hub if you wash your bike a lot.

For a change I'm with SMT all the way on this one.

Have FUN!

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SHIVER ME TIMBERS said:
weak......buddy's folded in a turn
How did his hub fold? =P I thought rims folded lol.

The OP said I9 hub laced to 823s, not I9 rims :)

And did your friend have the right spoke tensions and were they laced right? I know its silly to ask but a friend of mine has I9's laced to I9s and he beats this shiz out of them and they are still rolling tru.
 

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at one point i9 was using their own spokes threaded into the hub. I would certainly avoid that setup.

the 440 hubs are incredibly easy to service.
 

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I9s roll great but they take a lot of maintenence. I had to change the front bearings and rebuild the rear hub after 3 months of riding in WET/WINTER conditions. I do love the wheels though.
 

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spxoo said:
at one point i9 was using their own spokes threaded into the hub. I would certainly avoid that setup.

the 440 hubs are incredibly easy to service.
Their wheelsets come with the AL spokes threaded into the hubs, they also sell traditional j bend spoke hubs.
 

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maxibrobro said:
i break sh%t, ride hard, are the i9s strong enough ever with 32 hole. i weigh 220
210 lbs-ish here. I've had two sets of I9's with the aluminum spokes (sold one pair though) and have had really positive experiences with them both. They really are noticeably stiffer than a good set of J-spoke wheels and noticeably lighter than a similar wheel with J-spokes. They are more sensitive to rocks getting kicked into the spokes and uneven spoke tension. But just like every design out there, there are strengths and weaknesses. You just need to choose where your priorities are (light weight and fast engagement or durability and non proprietary) and that should make your decision pretty clear.
 

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specializedbeta18 said:
How did his hub fold? =P I thought rims folded lol.

The OP said I9 hub laced to 823s, not I9 rims :)

And did your friend have the right spoke tensions and were they laced right? I know its silly to ask but a friend of mine has I9's laced to I9s and he beats this shiz out of them and they are still rolling tru.
strait tensioned from a factory worker......and spokes gave out.....evidently it is a common problem
 

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SHIVER ME TIMBERS said:
whole post about it here and pinkbike and ride monkey had some stuff too
gee willikers...if its on the internet it must be gospel, with no other facts worth noting :thumbsup: do you rely on wikepedia to understand all dem big werdz people are using on mtbr?
 
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