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i havent been riding long enough to have more experience on v-brakes then disc; most of my riding has happened after the industry migrated over. and most of my experience has been with hydraulics.

so a sortve twist to the question of mechanical vs. hydraulics:

is the difference between hydraulic and mechanical disc brakes greater than the difference between mechanical disc and v-brakes? put another way, is the switch from v-brakes to mechanical discs greater than the switch from mechanical disc brakes to hydros?

im asking i ride with people all over the map in terms of setup, and when they ask, i dont really have a lotta experience with setups other than hydros. but it seems like mechanical discs to hydros is a bigger leap than v-brake to mechanical disc.

just curious what the opinions out there are.
 

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snowdenn said:
is the difference between hydraulic and mechanical disc brakes greater than the difference between mechanical disc and v-brakes? put another way, is the switch from v-brakes to mechanical discs greater than the switch from mechanical disc brakes to hydros?.
Nope.
 

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snowdenn said:
is the difference between hydraulic and mechanical disc brakes greater than the difference between mechanical disc and v-brakes? put another way, is the switch from v-brakes to mechanical discs greater than the switch from mechanical disc brakes to hydros?
Depends what you're comparing. There are good and bad mechs/hydros/v's. Having said that, i'd compare and evaluate different brakes as individuals to suit your needs, than to compare the types (mech vs hydros vs vbrakes).
 

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Most people around here are going to tell you as far as power that this:



Is as powerful as this:



I say use what you like and can afford. It's all about choice.
 

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There was a debate about lockouts? Of all the things to argue about...
 

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you guys can damn well tell by the title what this thread is gonna be about - nobody's forcing you to read it much less require an opinion

as for an opinion - what kona said.
 

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wow guys, i dont know how i got past the censors...

theres probably a lot more interesting brake issues out there. maybe some of you should go find them and ignore this one. really.

in the meantime, maybe someone should make a sticky about not posting questions about different types of brakes on the brake forums. its confusing for the uninitiated.

so i was gonna just let the thread die, but since some of you keep keeping it alive by coming back like moths to a flame, heres some more:

i have or have had different sets of xt hydros, juicys, bb5s, bb7s, and a few other disc and v-brakes that i didnt pay attention to cause i didnt know anything about bike parts at the time. its not a whole heckve a lot of brakes, which is why i thought id ask.

for me, the newer xt feel a little better than the older, but in general, all the hydros ive ridden feel kinda similar. same with the bb5s and bb7s, they generally feel similar. and while the mechanical discs have great stopping power, they definitely feel different from the hydros.

wheresas ive never ridden v-brakes on the trail, just for putzing around on the road. but i tried my friends v-brakes at the trail the other day, and they felt a lot like my bb7s (ducks for cover). much more than my bb7s feel like my current juicys or xt. kindve a surprise for me.

so when people started asking about the difference in the different types, i got to thinking about it and wondered what other people here thought. apparently, the issue just bothers people. :)
 

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so when people started asking about the difference in the different types, i got to thinking about it and wondered what other people here thought. apparently, the issue just bothers people. :)
I think the two main differences between V's and moving to a mechanical disk - and these are big differences - is one - the degradation in performance once mud/water gets between the brake pad and the rim braking surface. You might slop through a couple of muddy spots, cross a creek with muddy banks and all of a sudden, the next time you pull the levers you get a grinding sound and gritty feel with not much braking power. V's are great in dry, but it can be a crap shoot if moisture or mud is involved and gets between the pad and rim braking surface.

The second big difference is related to the first, and that requires rim braking surface and pad maintenance. You really need to clean the surfaces after every off road ride to maintain tip top performance. Dry or wet ride that is. When finishing a ride, taking your wheels off to scrub down and get all debris off of the rim braking surface and pads (as well as picking out metal shards from the pads) is a part of good, quality V braking performance. And that can add about 5 - 15 minutes of work after each and every ride if you follow such a rigorous maintenance schedule for the best V brake performance. Without it, your braking performance will begin to suffer and you may experience rim braking surface wear through on the lighter XC weight rims. Nothing like an exploding rim to teach one the maintenance requirements of quality V braking.:eek:

Those are the 2 main differences that I have found in my years of owning and operating V's and mechanical disc brakes.

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I think the two main differences between V's and moving to a mechanical disk - and these are big differences - is one - the degradation in performance once mud/water gets between the brake pad and the rim braking surface. You might slop through a couple of muddy spots, cross a creek with muddy banks and all of a sudden, the next time you pull the levers you get a grinding sound and gritty feel with not much braking power. V's are great in dry, but it can be a crap shoot if moisture or mud is involved and gets between the pad and rim braking surface.

The second big difference is related to the first, and that requires rim braking surface and pad maintenance. You really need to clean the surfaces after every off road ride to maintain tip top performance. Dry or wet ride that is. When finishing a ride, taking your wheels off to scrub down and get all debris off of the rim braking surface and pads (as well as picking out metal shards from the pads) is a part of good, quality V braking performance. And that can add about 5 - 15 minutes of work after each and every ride if you follow such a rigorous maintenance schedule for the best V brake performance. Without it, your braking performance will begin to suffer and you may experience rim braking surface wear through on the lighter XC weight rims. Nothing like an exploding rim to teach one the maintenance requirements of quality V braking.:eek:

Those are the 2 main differences that I have found in my years of owning and operating V's and mechanical disc brakes.

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what the heck? a useful answer... thanks!
 

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the two biggest reasons i like hydro's over vbrakes:

1) I'm not Moses, and since stream crossings are a very regular part of my riding schedule, it's nice to know that i can rail the down hill, cross the stream, and continue down the next hill without having to worry about anything on my rotors that would inhibit stopping when i need it.

2) Maintenance might be more costly, but being 6'2" tall and 240 lbs doesn't exactly scream "efficiency" when it comes to stopping. If i'm doing any kind of riding that requires serious braking potential, i like to know i've got something at the end of the handlebars that will do the job. Put simply...if i am screaming down a trail and the v-brakes don't stop me, i should have been better equipped...but if the 4-pots can't stop me then its out of my hands.

I guess the best way to think about it is in terms of cars: back in the day, drums worked "fine". But then ABS came out with discs, and braking improved (as did safety). It's a natural progression...don't fight it, enjoy it.
 

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I'd much rather have to true a wheel then try and 'true' a rotor (and I've done both several times). My mtb has front mechanical disc (bb7) and rear V (SD-7) brakes. They both work equally well.
 
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