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When comming upon roots in a singletrack trail,ride over the roots,not around them. When people ride around the roots, it makes the trail wider. Lame. Very lame.:madman:
Same goes with mud puddles. But instead of riding over the mud,you must ride through the mud,since the mud is unable to support your weight.
Spread the word. Keep our narrow trails narrow.

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Be one w/the bunny........

akdeluxe said:
When comming upon roots in a singletrack trail,ride over the roots,not around them. When people ride around the roots, it makes the trail wider. Lame. Very lame.:madman:
Same goes with mud puddles. But instead of riding over the mud,you must ride through the mud,since the mud is unable to support your weight.
Spread the word. Keep our narrow trails narrow.

akdeluxe
Hop 'em!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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If you can splash your "friends" while riding through said mud puddles you get 3.76 cool points per occurance..more if it's Mistah Woooody or Reee-OH.

Now that I have 15 inches of travel front and rear I try to run over everything in my path...that reminds me, anyone know how to get little kids out of your tires?
 

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akdeluxe said:
When comming upon roots in a singletrack trail,ride over the roots,not around them. When people ride around the roots, it makes the trail wider. Lame. Very lame.:madman:
Same goes with mud puddles. But instead of riding over the mud,you must ride through the mud,since the mud is unable to support your weight.
Spread the word. Keep our narrow trails narrow.

akdeluxe
Hey Akdeluxe you forgot to mention the person or persons who are cutting roots out on the Llama trail etc. Could those people please knock it off, the continued sterilization, widening of existing trails on the Hillside trails is already out of control by another organization so please lighten up on whats left of the singletrack. Thanks, Oh yeah, STA rocks
 

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After reading many other posts it seems people who don't have the skills or refuse to learn to ride are destroying prime single track. I would think that it would take less time to learn the lines or practice a section of track than to take a chainsaw or pulaski or simply ride around an obstacle. I know I don't have the skills..yet...but I can't see being foolish enough to go screw up someones hard work and others passion just because I'm unskilled and lazy. There's plenty of easier riding to learn from. I don't know if I've ridden long enough to be able to post this opinion but it seems that's what's going on after reading this post and multiple other posts on the forum boards. Am I right?

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You are right AkMike. And yes,you have been riding long enough to post on this forum.


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The problem is...

the folks doing the damage are probably not even reading this thread or visiting this website. Has anybody actually caught anyone on the trail doing the mods?? Is it the downhill folks??
 

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Valhalla said:
the folks doing the damage are probably not even reading this thread or visiting this website. Has anybody actually caught anyone on the trail doing the mods?? Is it the downhill folks??
I can't see why would the downhill folks want to remove any roots or do any trail "sanitizing." The roots I've seen cut on Llama Trail seems like the stuff people with a big bike would like in their trails.

As far as mud puddles go, it is not only bikers. You can get bikers to go through the puddles, but hikers are not going to if the puddle is too long. They'll go around it, then you have the line around the puddle, so more people follows, yada, yada, yada... trail becomes wider and wider.
 

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I can't see why would the downhill folks want to remove any roots or do any trail "sanitizing." The roots I've seen cut on Llama Trail seems like the stuff people with a big bike would like in their trails.
The "up-hill" crowd is to blame. The sanitization of the Llama has occured on all the up-hill cruxes... not the downhill cruxes. The Llama trail used to have some "class-5" moves, but no more. This is why illegal trails are built because we got a crowd of folks "dumbing" down the singletrack. FYI, recent trail sanitizing has occured on the Blueberry Hollow trail as well... again an up-hill crux. Lame... very lame.

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A little off the thread here, but where is the Blueberry Hollow trail? I work near the Hillside trail system and ride Black/Brown bear alot. Haven't tried Llama yet. Is Blueberry near these?

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Prospect Heights Area

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A little off the thread here, but where is the Blueberry Hollow trail? I work near the Hillside trail system and ride Black/Brown bear alot. Haven't tried Llama yet. Is Blueberry near these?

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Prospect Heights Area is full of trails.
 

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rblouch said:
A little off the thread here, but where is the Blueberry Hollow trail? I work near the Hillside trail system and ride Black/Brown bear alot. Haven't tried Llama yet. Is Blueberry near these?

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Blueberry Hollow, Southrim, The Llama, The Gorge, Near Point, etc can all be reached off the Powerline trail around the elevation at or just above the Prospect Heights or even more so the Upper Huffman trailhead. You can get a slightly longer ride ride in and so you don't miss them if you come down off of the Glen Alps parking lot too.

I really like Blueberry and then riding the boards back to the powerline. It has a few large mud puddles on it right now though. Thursday night with the fog though it was amazingly picturesqe. The sanitization was not super obvious as it is on the Llama though, but I am unclear as to why it needs it as there is no real uphills or anything on it. So I am confused how we can blame that one on the up-hillers.

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A positive note...

At least you guys in Anchorage don't have to share the sweet trails with bastard ******** in off road vehicles and the crappiest horse masters ever.
The sad thing about this thread is that I doubt anyone reading it is lame enough to be doing this stuff.
The bottom line should be: If you can't hang, either walk it or stick to the bike paths.
 

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The sanitization was not super obvious as it is on the Llama though, but I am unclear as to why it needs it as there is no real uphills or anything on it. So I am confused how we can blame that one on the up-hillers.
Let's face it none of these trails have "unridable" down-hill cruxes. BH is much more difficult to climb than to descend as is Llama as is the Gorge as is Hemlock knob as is Silver Fern as is Denali View as is Golden grass. No it is not obivous yet, but there are some ***** mountain biker wanta-be's out there ruining some of our best technical singletrack like BH and if they can't "climb" it they "cut it out". It's obvious to me and it's obvious to other longtime Anchorites who've been riding these trails for years.

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If you need to sanitize trails in Anchroage, you're a turd. None of the popular trails up here are 'technical' beyond 'advanced beginner' lower 48 standards. If you can't clean them because you think they're too difficult, and you actually go out and remove 'obstacles'(you can clean almost everything here by just pedalling), you really need to give up and take up rollerblading on the coastal trail.
 

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the folks doing the damage are probably not even reading this thread or visiting this website. Has anybody actually caught anyone on the trail doing the mods?? Is it the downhill folks??
Im a downhill "folk" and there isnt anything on the hillside that is even remotely close to requiring the geometry and capabilities a DH rig brings to the table. I have taken my dual crown bike down the STA Trails a time or two when the wife drops me off at Prospect for suspension tuning. That was pretty darn borning btw.
 

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Wow this thread is old.

I see complaining about other trail users( even those with your own user group) still hasn't gone out of vogue yet.
 

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If you need to sanitize trails in Anchroage, you're a turd. None of the popular trails up here are 'technical' beyond 'advanced beginner' lower 48 standards. If you can't clean them because you think they're too difficult, and you actually go out and remove 'obstacles'(you can clean almost everything here by just pedalling), you really need to give up and take up rollerblading on the coastal trail.
Amen to that! We need all the technical we can get!
 

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I tend to take a pretty laid back view. Trails evolve and change over time as people use them. They widen, get narrower, roots come, roots go, dirt washes away, more dirt gets shoveled in.... Something that is tight singletrack right now might have been a miner's cat road 50 years ago.

If you start losing sleep over every little thing it's just not worth it, IMHO. I don't always like the way trails change but I accept it.

Also, if the trails aren't "technical" enough for you there are always options. Ride 'em faster. Ride trails backwards. Find alternate lines. Try to air over sections you used to ride through. Get a singlespeed. Ride a cross bike...

No offense to anyone on this thread, but IME people who complain about trails being "sanitized" (I hate that word) because someone cut out a root somewhere are usually intermediate-ish riders who can't tackle the really tough blacks and double blacks, so they ride the blue trails and then get upset because people are making them "easier."
 
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