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I just got my bike but am unhappy with the weight of the bike. Its listed at 28lbs but I am guessing that is the small frame and I have a 17" best I can tell its about 28-29 lbs.

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Hubs: Formula Disc
Rims: WTB SpeedDisc
Spokes: 14ga
Tires: Kenda Koyote - 26" x 1.95
Tubes: Standard Schrader

Wheelset would need to be budget minded
This is the MOST i would spend http://www.blueskycycling.com/product2070_54_-Shimano-XT-M756-Disc-Wheelset-w--Mavic-717-Rims.htm
Hubs: Shimano M756 Disc
Rims: Mavic 717 Black Rim
Spokes: 14/15g DT Black Spokes with Alloy Nipples
Weight: 935g Front 1115g Rear

AT Tires 460g
http://www.blueskycycling.com/product1224_52_-Kenda-Kozmik-Lite--Kevlar-Tire.htm

Tube 125g
http://www.blueskycycling.com/product1626_53_-Maxxis-Ultra-Light-Tube.htm

Thats about $280 and the maxx I would be willing to spend. I really dont have that much if there is cheaper options please let me know. I just dont want to upgrade junk to trash. I think the listed wheelset is pretty good but I realy want a disk only rim. Id realy pefer something in the $150 range but unsure how that would compare to the stock setup.

How do these compare at $135? http://www.blueskycycling.com/produ...lset-Black-Hub-W-Sun-Rhyno-Lite-Black-Rim.htm
 

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Pay Here said:
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Thanks ever soooo much for the linkage,I just figured out how to cheaply shave off 2.5+ pounds off my Ells Truth for under 200 cdn dollars !!
 

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Get the tubes and tires for the moment, look at a different tire (from the kenda range - they are good tires) for the front something with a little more grip.

As for the wheels, save our money and wait till you can afford some lighter hubs... that will save as much as 250grams over the XT hubs:)
 

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I have looked at the Mavic CrossRide 1950g for set I am not sure how they compare to a XT setup but they are carried at a new local shop for $199 for black. I might ask for the silver online they seem to run $20 cheaper.. I am not sure how much weight I am going to loose with a new wheelset the stock ones dont seem to heavy, WTB SpeedDisc and Formula Disc Hubs is what came stock. I know others are lighter but it does not seem that what I have is to heavy. I have thought about just chaning tubes, tires, and cassette. However the otherday I pulled the wheels off holding the hub to see how free it turnes and its not that free kinda grity feeling. Wondering it they are just that cheap or do they need some run in time? Im going to be working a good bit in the next 2 weeks and have little time to ride so I am going to hold off until after that to do anything.
 

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What I have 2290g with skewers. http://www.jensonusa.com/store/product/WH406A00-Wtb+Speed+Disc+With+Formula+Hubs.aspx

Mavic Crossride. 2070g think thats with skewers have seen them listed at 1950g
http://www.jensonusa.com/store/product/WH501A00-+Mavic+Crossride+Wheelset.aspx

So spending $200 and dropping 1/2lb and and getting smother hub.

Could Replace Cassette for $60 dropping 200g.

Non quick release skewers dropping 60g

Replace Tubes dropping 200g

Tires to Kenda Kozmik 460g each unsure of current tires standard tire but prob drop 300g total.

Thats a guess of a total loss of 980g 2.15lbs for a cost of $325
Total without rims loss of 760g 1.65lbs cost of $125
 

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tubes + tires, then rims

i would only buy the tires and tubes to start, specially if you have a limited budget.

like said earlier, wait until you have more cash for better (lighter) hubs. try to get a wheelset that is more down around the 1500 gr range. 1900 -2000 grams is still a little heavy.

my stock wheels are just over 2200 grams that i use for training and general trail riding. my race only wheels (which I bought off ebay for $200 us) are right around 1500 grams. that is is a big weight savings. then factor in i run 600 gram tires, 200 gram tubes on the old wheels and 380 gram tires and 100 gram tubes on the race wheels... the difference is almost 3 lbs. the bike feels like a rocket when you change wheels and accelerates very quickly.

good luck, maybe spend a little more on lighter tires to start with.
 

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kevbikemad said:
...i run 600 gram tires, 200 gram tubes on the old wheels and 380 gram tires and 100 gram tubes on the race wheels... the difference is almost 3 lbs. the bike feels like a rocket when you change wheels and accelerates very quickly.
Wow. That's quite a difference in weight and I'd assume tread pattern. Do you have any handling issues going from one tire to the other?

On a similar direction - I upgraded pedals (rotating wt) from old mud-sucking 737s to composite Time ATAC's and felt like I hit an accelerator.

best,

-capt pearl
 

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Wow. That's quite a difference in weight and I'd assume tread pattern. Do you have any handling issues going from one tire to the other?

On a similar direction - I upgraded pedals (rotating wt) from old mud-sucking 737s to composite Time ATAC's and felt like I hit an accelerator.

best,

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no issues about changing tires. i tend to use older (worn) tires with very little tread for general riding and training. this season i have used conti twister supersonic tires (380g) for racing and they offer good overall traction. if it is REALLY wet, the I use conti explorer supersonics at 450 grams. i also use lower pressure for racing for good traction.

changing wheels makes a huge difference. accelerates, climbs and handles like a dream.
 

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i can reccomend kenda karma dtc 2.0's, they are very light (for my tastes) and i run a blue groove on the front, also pretty light, along with maxxis ultralight tubes. Dropped quite a bit of weight off my bike this way. Check out oddsandendos.com for some good deals on light wheels too.
 
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