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My builder got me the 4" link for I think around $150, but that was a while back and I might not be remembering so well.

I would imagine the 5" is the same. Call Ventana, find out, and let us know MSRP

The link comes with all bearings installed and mounting hardware.

edit: I got mine wholesale from my framebuilder, so the price is not accurate
 

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Call Sherwood. Last time I inquired I think it was >$200 fo for a new rocker set.

I think he now has the 4-5" adj rockers for the El Cap. Worth it if buying new.
 

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To compare a Marz to a WB is a grievous error.:nono:
Until Marz gets back in the 29er game there is no comparo.:nono::nono::nono: That's right, three wiggly fingers in your grill biotch!

What about your dream 29er Marz for your 'Moth?
 

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4-5" adj rockers

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Call Sherwood. Last time I inquired I think it was >$200 fo for a new rocker set.

I think he now has the 4-5" adj rockers for the El Cap. Worth it if buying new.
Thats the ticket....
 

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I think he now has the 4-5" adj rockers for the El Cap. Worth it if buying new.
Are you sure about this? Last time I checked (a few weeks ago), they were still only offering separate 4" & 5" rockers.

Price point of around $200 sounds right for 5" rockers - that is about what all of the 26er rocker sets go for.
 

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Soupboy said:
Until Marz gets back in the 29er game there is no comparo.:nono::nono::nono: That's right, three wiggly fingers in your grill biotch!

What about your dream 29er Marz for your 'Moth?
So sad!

I'm speaking about a hypothetical Marz 29er...not the junk Marathon stuff...but the new stuff....like the 66. Oh man. Like budda...stiff....bomber....only in my dreams...(dreams will be haunted by wiggly fingers!)
 

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Has anyone ridden an El Cap with both a 4" & 5" Rocker. How noticeable is the difference? I currently have a Pushed rp3 w/ 4" rockers. Do you know if a switch to 5" rockers would require adjustments by Push?

Thanks.
 

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Has anyone ridden an El Cap with both a 4" & 5" Rocker. How noticeable is the difference? I currently have a Pushed rp3 w/ 4" rockers. Do you know if a switch to 5" rockers would require adjustments by Push?
Yes there is a difference:
4"= plush XC feel
5"=Very plush squishy feel

You will need the RP3 retuned. It would wallow with the 5" rockers due to increased leverage. Damping might be okay, but you would lose your "bob" resistance.
 

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The 5" rockers with WB 130 raises the BB >1" above where a 4x4 El Cap sits. I rode both a Ventana demo (5x5) and my El Cap (4x4.5) back to back.

You do feel higher on the 5" bike even properly sagged. It wasn't uncomfortably high - basically the same height as my old Turner RFX.

Also, the 5x5 had a standard Float R vs. my PUSHed RP3. Personally, I felt that my bike with the damper on full open felt substantially plush and railed a bit better due to lower COG. No doubt about it, the 5x5 was buttery smooth (as evidenced by the Oz microhuck).

Not so sure on the mandatory retune. In theory, it makes sense, but I would try and ride it sans retune and see how you like it. My opinion is that you might as well use the extra travel if you got it. I run my damper full open most of the time anyway - flip it to max "platform" only on tarmac commutes or fireroad grinders.

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Has anyone ridden an El Cap with both a 4" & 5" Rocker. How noticeable is the difference? I currently have a Pushed rp3 w/ 4" rockers. Do you know if a switch to 5" rockers would require adjustments by Push?

Thanks.
 

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Do you know if a switch to 5" rockers would require adjustments by Push?
I had a PUSH shock tuned for 5" on my old Saltamontes. I tried it at 4" once or twice, and it rode like crap. Definitely the shock too. I had a stock fox shock that I had ridden in both 4 & 5" mode and the difference was nowhere near as dramatic as the PUSH.

Maybe going the other way (shock tuned for shorter travel going to longer travel) wouldn't be as big of a difference, but I suspect that would would want it re-vavled for 5" eventually.
 

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Maybe going the other way (shock tuned for shorter travel going to longer travel) wouldn't be as big of a difference, but I suspect that would would want it re-vavled for 5" eventually.
You will lose all small hit shock absorption going from 5-4. 4-5 is possible, 5-4 you absolutely need the thing revalved or it will ride lika a hardtail. I've tried it, don't do it.

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The 5" rockers with WB 130 raises the BB >1" above where a 4x4 El Cap sits. I rode both a Ventana demo (5x5) and my El Cap (4x4.5) back to back.

You do feel higher on the 5" bike even properly sagged. It wasn't uncomfortably high - basically the same height as my old Turner RFX.
I am dropping the travel on my Curtlo down to 4" and using a Reba because I am getting annoyed with the BB height and lack of agility on the local trails where I definitely don't need that much travel. I think for a true 5" Bike, Sherwood will need a redesign like the X-5 to get the BB down a bit. Right now it rides like my Salty did when Jacked up to 5" travel...sort of a tractor....will roll up and down anything, but don't ask it to turn to sharp. El Cappy's HA is steeper, so it might not be affected so much at 5". My Salty dramatically changed personalities when the travel reduced to 4", so I am expecting a similar change.

Will leave the 5" stuff for when I need rock crawling clearance. Will probably try 5" rear and 4" front as well.

Hopefully we will see a 5" fork selection that will prompt more true 5" platforms in the future.
 
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