My '03 Dee-lux has a Fox Float R Fork and Float R shock. No lockout on either one. A friend, who owns a bike shop, tells me that the 05 frames are ligther then the previous versions, though he didn't say how they lightened them up.LeopardDog said:Like the old saying goes..."your mileage may vary". Over on the shock forum there was a post about weight of Fox shocks and someone posted that Fox listed the weight of a Vanilla lighter than the air series. Someone else dispelled that by qualifying that the Vanilla weight did not include the spring. Did the 03 Dee-Lux have the Fox fork currently used? Could be a difference maker. I'll be sure to post the weight of my Dawg as soon as I get it.