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What happened to Horseridge? It looks like someone took out all the rocks at the top of sand canyon?? Why would someone do this, the entire place is a big rock garden.....that is the appeal. :madmax:
 

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If you are unhappy with what is taking place at Horse Ridge please write Phil and COTA an email at: [email protected] and express your concerns.

What is happening is unfortunate and in my opinion not trail maintenance, to me reworking a trail to ones own desires while ignoring the history and natural conditions of the area goes against the principles of mountain biking.
 

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I noticed someone removing rocks at Maston a few weeks ago and all I can wonder is why????? Why take out rocks, ruin the technicality of any trail. There are plenty of smooth road rides, endless miles of gravel roads but only a finite amount of mountain bike singletrack..... especially in the winter!
 

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Insanely lame. Go ride horse butte or matson if you want smooth trail. We are talking about mountain biking right? Can we please just leave the few trails that aren't fun on a cross bike how they are. This is in no way maintenance, it is someone being an a-hole
 

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Insanely lame. Go ride horse butte or matson if you want smooth trail. We are talking about mountain biking right? Can we please just leave the few trails that aren't fun on a cross bike how they are. This is in no way maintenance, it is someone being an a-hole
Do any of you do trail work? Before bashing Phil... Someone who by the way is a legend in this area and mountain biking/trail building as a whole... Why not reach out to him politely to find out what he is doing? This is the man who maintains and build tons of trails in this area. Also, a super nice guy.

Now doubt, I will now get some nasty responses. Happy riding!!
 

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Do any of you do trail work? Before bashing Phil... Someone who by the way is a legend in this area and mountain biking/trail building as a whole... Why not reach out to him politely to find out what he is doing? This is the man who maintains and build tons of trails in this area. Also, a super nice guy.

Now doubt, I will now get some nasty responses. Happy riding!!
Every time there is a thread about how much it sucks when someone goes out and take it upon themselves to sterilize a trail, there is the same ridiculous argument that somehow the more single track you neuter, the more right you have to neuter more single track. The whole appeal of Horse Ridge is it's technical aspect. Maintenance is one thing but destroying the little diversity in riding we have is a completely different thing. And yes, I do trailwork. I'm sure not nearly as much as you or Phil, but does that really justify anyone completely changing the character of a trail because they like it better that way. Especially considering the huuuuuuuge amount of sterile single track we have to suit your fancy.
 

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Every time there is a thread about how much it sucks when someone goes out and take it upon themselves to sterilize a trail, there is the same ridiculous argument that somehow the more single track you neuter, the more right you have to neuter more single track. The whole appeal of Horse Ridge is it's technical aspect. Maintenance is one thing but destroying the little diversity in riding we have is a completely different thing. And yes, I do trailwork. I'm sure not nearly as much as you or Phil, but does that really justify anyone completely changing the character of a trail because they like it better that way. Especially considering the huuuuuuuge amount of sterile single track we have to suit your fancy.
Additionally, did I say anything in my comments about it being okay to "neuter trail"? Nope. My point is instead of making assumptions in a forum, reach out to the trail builder to understand their objectives. You might be pleasantly surprised by the answer!!!

And what makes you think I don't like technical trail.... Assumptions.... Usually wrong.

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Horse ridge is a schizo place, with a weird mix of ultra smooth trails and patches of rocks. We need a rock loop up top, and a fast trail which misses the rocks. That would make various riders happy, and help take away temptation to ride at Phils when the mud is an issue. Get out there and build!

While we are ragging, has anyone seen the ******** on the fatbike who rode the entire lower trail in the soft sand five feet away from the main trail? We get it dude, your bike is good in sand, but running over the sagebrush next to an existing trail is lame. A few feet of packed trail won't kill your buzz.

(by the way, I rode a number of the OHV trails behind Horse Ridge on my fatbike last week---slow churned up sand but fun at 6 psi. I think the closure until August is just for motorized vehicles.....anyone know for sure?)
 

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HA, saw that "dude" riding the fatbike on Sunday....actually was a lady w/ a dog off leash. She rode out and back on the lower area.
And seemed un aware of trail edicate also, as she rode downhill past us going up the 1st rocky pitch forcing us off the trail to yeild to HER.
ha ha. oh the Fatties.

Horse ridge is a schizo place, with a weird mix of ultra smooth trails and patches of rocks. We need a rock loop up top, and a fast trail which misses the rocks. That would make various riders happy, and help take away temptation to ride at Phils when the mud is an issue. Get out there and build!

While we are ragging, has anyone seen the ******** on the fatbike who rode the entire lower trail in the soft sand five feet away from the main trail? We get it dude, your bike is good in sand, but running over the sagebrush next to an existing trail is lame. A few feet of packed trail won't kill your buzz.

(by the way, I rode a number of the OHV trails behind Horse Ridge on my fatbike last week---slow churned up sand but fun at 6 psi. I think the closure until August is just for motorized vehicles.....anyone know for sure?)
 

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HA, saw that "dude" riding the fatbike on Sunday....actually was a lady w/ a dog off leash. She rode out and back on the lower area.
And seemed un aware of trail edicate also, as she rode downhill past us going up the 1st rocky pitch forcing us off the trail to yeild to HER.
ha ha. oh the Fatties.
haha

fatty's on fatty's. I love it.
 

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Please bear in mind there are no "official trails" on Horse Ridge as of yet. The BLM has been very patient with COTA in this area, and we are cooperating fully with the BLM. Of course input is welcome, but again the process takes a long time to establish legal trails. Enough ranting already.
 
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