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Homemade SS Freewheels - step-by-step photo guide

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#1 · (Edited)
Homemade SS Freewheels - recycle vintage wheelsets

I have had success in recycling older Shimano 5-6 speed freewheels into workable SS freewheels, by removing either lockring (newer Hyperglide) or lockcog (older Uniglide), removing cogs and spacers and rebuilding. Simple tools, available to anyone with basic wrenching skills are all that is needed.

I decided to prepare a step-by-step photo guide to DIY.

The finished product

Bicycle wheel rim Bicycle accessory Spoke Rim Hub gear


Why? or Why Not?

Since the late 1980's most quality multi-gear hubs use a freehub/ cassette. For most 7-8-9-10 speed applications this is the only way to go. Freehubs also offer easy conversion to SS and there is lots of information available on how to convert or 'ghetto-mod'.

I have a number of vintage freewheel wheelsets of good quality that are 'underutilized' and I would like to use for SS builds. At the same time, I do not want to re-space hubs and re-dish wheels to use a SS specific freewheel. I don't want to buy a number of SS freewheels for different ratios. I want to reuse and recycle. I assume that there are millions of freewheels still spinning around, most are discarded because one cog, usually the highest one, is worn out...

There is little or no information on the internet on freewheel cog replacement. In fact, except for some references on the Sheldon Brown site to sprocket replacement as a lost art, there is not even an image of a 'freewheel bench vise' or adaptor.

The following links to Sheldon Brown give great information. I credit Sheldon for inspiring me with the paragraph on freewheel sprocket replacement. It got me thinkin there should be a way..

https://sheldonbrown.com/freewheels.html

Why Shimano?

There were many different freewheels in the 70's and 80's.. There are few if any except Shimano (and Sun Race) currently producing multi-gear freewheels. Even the newer Shimano Mega7 7-speed models use a different spline pattern and do not lend themselves to conversion. Except for some Regina and Suntour freewheels, all I have are Shimano, and the proprietary pattern of the cogs is important. Shimano HyperGlide freewheels also have a 'lockring' that does away with the need for a 13t or 14t 'lockcog'. Most home users will have or can find recycled Shimano freewheels, and you will find that for a decent conversion you need at least one HyperGlide freewheel (for the lockring) and one UniGlide freewheel (for the straighter cut teeth on the cogs.)

Step-by-step Guide.

It is almost impossible to remove either lockcog or lockring without a vice (or vice substitute) to hold the freewheel. I tried with dual chainwhips with the freewheel in place on a wheel. I broke one whip. I tried bracing a freewheel off the wheel using vice-grips and chain, and even destroyed large cogs trying to brace in a vice without the elusive 'freewheel bench vise'

I want to credit Wayne at Performance Cycles (local LBS) at Quadra and Reynolds (just off the Galloping Goose trail at MacKenzie) in Victoria, B.C., for showing me a couple of versions of (now unavailable) vice adaptors and suggesting a home brewed version using a wooden jig and wood screws to secure the freewheel. Screwing the freewheel to a solid surface was the key.

Also props to Ryan at Recyclistas community bike shop at the TransCanada flyover on the Galloping Goose, where the Goose meets the Lochside Trail, for providing a number of freewheel carcasses for experimentation and general banging the hell out of...

For the images I show two freewheels, one a 5 speed Uniglide from the early 80's and the other a 6 speed Hyperglide that is current today.

You can successfully do the conversion with just a Hyperglide freewheel, but you will have ramped and cut teeth that are less than completely satisfactory. However, its no different than a 'ghetto-mod' of a freehub using HyperGlide cassette cogs. If you can find an older Uniglide freewheel you will get better teeth (the slight 'twist-tooth' style) and more spacers...hehe...

Remove the freewheel from the bike.

If you have a wooden work surface, simply brace the freewheel with wood screws around the perimeter of the largest cog.

Gear Bicycle drivetrain part Bicycle part Hardwood Circle


I show a possible variation using a wooden brace in a bench vice.

Iron Wood stain Tin can Tool Tool accessory


If you don't have a wood surface that your wife will let you drive screws into, you can also use a plywood 'plate' and clamp to a surface, like the dining room table....

Showing a plywood plate using a chainwhip (counter-clockwise) on a Uniglide freewheel (with lockcog)

Gear Bicycle drivetrain part Hardwood Wood stain Plywood


Showing a plywood plate using a hammer and punch (counter-clockwise) on a Hyperglide freewheel (with lockring)

Bicycle drivetrain part Gear Bicycle part Iron Circle


I had problems with a Shimano MegaRange 6 (low cog of 34t). The big cog was so flexy that the teeth would jump out of the screw heads with the force of the blows to the punch. I did a butcher job of shimming the big cog, but it worked...

Gear Machine Hardwood Circle Engineering


Uniglide comes apart

Bicycle drivetrain part Bicycle part Gear Crankset Auto part


Hyperglide comes apart

Bicycle drivetrain part Gear Bicycle part Auto part Crankset


All the cogs and spacers simply lift off, after the first. Here is the body of the freewheel showing two 'steps' - the fatter for the low gears (cogs greater than 20t) and the slimmer for cogs from 13t to 19t.

Wood Hardwood Wood stain Beige Tan


Here's a comparison of Uniglide vs Hyperglide cogs. You can see why the Uniglide is my preferred one.

Red Pattern Carmine Stationery Gear


Gear Bicycle drivetrain part Bicycle part Circle Auto part


Its a simple matter to build a new SS freewheel on the slimmer step of the freewheel body. Many middle gear chainlines will line up guite well with the middle of the 6 speed freewheel, so you can mount a cog from 15t to 19t against the shoulder of the step and use the slimmer spacers to fill to a point where the lockring will secure.

Bicycle wheel rim Bicycle accessory Spoke Rim Hub gear


You cannot use cassette cogs - they differ.

Bicycle drivetrain part Gear Circle Crankset Bicycle part


You cannot use BB lockrings or freehub lockrings- they differ.

Text Font Circle Handwriting Number


You cannot use cassette spacers - they differ.

Text Font Circle Symbol Coquelicot


I have tried various sizes of ABS pipe that I had, including 2" and 2.25" but no joy. I hope to try some PVC.

A few other finished product

Circle Hardwood Gas Wood stain Plywood


The finished 18t weighed a little over 220 grams

Measuring instrument Gauge Scale Circle Still life photography


Just as an aside, I include an image (courtesy Sheldon Brown) of a Var 16 lockring tool, that some suggest is the way to remove the Hyperglide lockring...

Product White Technology Metal Black


In my experience, I had to hammer the hell out of the punch to move the lockring, and I really doubt that the narrow ring would move with the plier type tool. It also costs $80. Wayne at Performance Cycles told me that he just uses a punch and hammer.

I did not build a freewheel with cog greater than 19t, the last that fits up against the shoulder of the step. I could easily do one with 20t plus, but I have to figure out how to secure very wide spacers on the lower step to butt against the cog and/or spacers on the upper (low gear) step.

Future to-do list

I will see how the stability of the cogs holds up. I might add a string of large (fatter) spacers to the top step if the cog giggles.

I will experiment with how much tension I need on the lockring to hold without excessive giggle. It will be harder to remove the lockring as it will be harder to secure the SS freewheel to the base. I will experiment with a jig using chain or maybe just using tall screws.

I will see what alternate spacers might be had.

Build a 20t to 30t model, just to see what I need to make it work.

Final thoughts

The job went surprisingly easy once I figured out how to secure the freewheel to a solid surface. Be sure to drip penetrating oil into the threads of the lockring/lockcog or just soak in oil for a while.

Watch your knuckles on the teeth of the cogs, especially if you are really whacking on the punch...

I disclaim all responsibility for physical injury, property damage or death. Use at your own risk. Your mileage may vary.

Any comments welcome, suggestions for spacers etc etc

Cheers

dmc
 

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#5 ·
Probably more a hub issue....

Schmucker said:
Cool. I wonder how well the old freewheels hold up off road.
Hi guys - thanks for the comments. I was thinking about Schmucker' s question - Freewheels got a bad rap in the early '90s as frame spacing got wider (126mm - 130mm- 135mm) and gears got 'more-multi', more multi-er, from 5-6, to 7 and 8. As the bearing surface was forced away from the drive-side end of the axle and axles could break, most especially with any mis-alignment of the drop-outs. But that was really not a problem with 5-6 freewheels and 126 spacing as much as the later and larger.

As to durability, I think that older Shimano would be at least as good, and likely better, than todays Shimano freewheel, but near the low end of the scale compared to boutique builders.

However, one thing I always liked about freewheels was that they did engage well, and that they never had that annoying wiggle that you see on many freehubs. I would guess that the bearing, pawls, springs whatever, inside a freewheel are bigger, in whatever dimension, just because the body is that much bigger.

Cheers

dmc
 
#6 · (Edited)
SunTour 'Perfect' 5 Speed Update - photos

Hi all - update to the photo guide;

I got a key for a early '80s SunTour 2-notch freewheel and removed the freewheel body.

The SunTour Perfect has thread on lock cog (s). Turns out the first two high gears, in this case 14 and 17 are threaded, the low gears splined on the upper shoulder.

First cog in ghetto mod vice adaptor;

Wood Hardwood Wood stain Machine Iron


Second threaded cog removal;

Iron Circle Machine Metal Gear


Disassembled. The image is dark but you may be able to see that the first (high gear) part of the body is threaded all the way. This means that I can thread as low as a 19 tooth cog all the way to the middle of the body and run without spacers or lock cog. I think I may find other trashed SunTour bodies that might give up non-ramped straight cut teeth in sizes from 14t to 19t. The SunTour body also gives up metal spacers that will be useful in Shimano body rebuilds...

Gear Circle Machine Clutch part Rotor


Still looking for other material for spacers on the Shimano bodies...

Cheers

dmc
 
#7 ·
Thanks!

DMC...AWESOME! Many Thanks!! I've got an old 10 speed that I'm fixing up and found it was the same Sun Tour Perfect cassette. I just disassembled it using your instructions, including the ghetto holder. First cog was tough coming off....think I need a new chain whip after that....but got it apart, and it will make a great SS setup.

Thanks again for the tip and the detailed photos. Priceless. What did we do before the internet?

Rob
 
#8 ·
Some Sheldon Brown Karma...

robrob said:
DMC...AWESOME! Many Thanks!! I've got an old 10 speed that I'm fixing up and found it was the same Sun Tour Perfect cassette. I just disassembled it using your instructions, including the ghetto holder. First cog was tough coming off....think I need a new chain whip after that....but got it apart, and it will make a great SS setup.

Thanks again for the tip and the detailed photos. Priceless. What did we do before the internet?

Rob
:) Hi Rob - welcome to the board, and thanks. Glad that it helped out. Think of it as me trying to give back a little to Sheldon Brown (died this week) for all the inspiration I got from his pages...

Funny thing about 10 speeds, I first got the idea for this page when I started on a 1986 Miyata Seven Twelve with 6 speed freewheel with a wonderful wheelset. No way I wanted to mess with the rear wheel, so I tried this....and it worked...

Have fun...

dmc
 
#9 ·
Homemade SS Freewheels - recycle vintage wheelsets

One more question on this subject.....what about chain compatibility? I have the original chain, which is probably in fine shape under the 6 pounds of crap it's coated in. I was hoping to run a circa '99 8 speed Shimano MTB crank set, for both length ("proper" 175 versus the 165 on the original crank set) and sizing (42 vs 52). Thinking 42 x 17 will be fine for the short, flat distances I plan to ride this bike.

Will the original chain fit the 8sp rings? Will an 8sp chain work with the old freewheel? Guidance is appreciated.
 
#12 ·
Chain 'should' be OK. for 5-6-7-8.

robrob said:
One more question on this subject.....what about chain compatibility? I have the original chain, which is probably in fine shape under the 6 pounds of crap it's coated in. I was hoping to run a circa '99 8 speed Shimano MTB crank set, for both length ("proper" 175 versus the 165 on the original crank set) and sizing (42 vs 52). Thinking 42 x 17 will be fine for the short, flat distances I plan to ride this bike.

Will the original chain fit the 8sp rings? Will an 8sp chain work with the old freewheel? Guidance is appreciated.
Hi Rob - you're using older cog and chainring, so you can use old chain (all being worn). The issue with new chain and old ring/cog is that the new fresh chain may skip on the worn teeth. Since you can't get new cogs, stick with 'pre-owned'. However, since you have a ten-speed frame, and probably semi-horizontal drop-outs, you can keep good tension on the chain and you could probably live with a new chain. Its really really bad to throw a chain on the SS, nothing to hold it in place and you can jam it hard into the BB...

There is no issue of size, all are 3/32" and 1/2 inch pitch. The one thing you might do is either buy a new SRAM chain (cheap one like PC-48 or PC-58 for 6-7-8 speeds) and get the SRAM 'Powerlink' for no tools chain breaking. You can buy the Powerlinks on their own for a couple of bucks, but the old chains tend to be too thick in the sideplates for the Powerlinks to fit nice...

You can use the Mtn crank no problem, but would preferably use the centre ring for chainline purposes. Can't you just use the second 'inside' ring of the old road double and get the 42? If the road double is a POS then take the large mtn ring and mount on the centre of the mtn triple. In either case, you either buy BMX style short chain ring stack bolts, or grind up some spacers by cutting the tabs off one of the large chainrings and using the tabs as spacers in the single ring setup.

Cheers

dmc

PS - hi plume and bcd - thanks for the comments...:)
 
#13 · (Edited)
SunRace 7speed freewheel update..

Hi all;

Rebuilt a 1999 or maybe 2000 SunRace (Taiwan) 7 speed last night, but forgot to take photos.

SunRace is about the only company other than Shimano that still makes mutli-gear freewheels.

The SunRace is removed with a standard Shimano splined freewheel and cassette tool, I use the Park FR-1.

The SunRace has a threaded first cog (normal right hand thread) exactly the same appearance as the old Shimano and the SunTour above. The first cog unscrews and the rest of the 6 cogs simply lift off. The cogs and spacers are not interchangable with either Shimano or SunTour, however the newer style Shimano lockring fits on the threads of the SunRace body, so I was able to spline on a SunRace 18t cog and secure using a spare Shimano lockring.

Cheers

dmc
 
#15 · (Edited)
Needle Nose LockRing Plier update - photos

Hi all;

The Shimano freewheel lockrings used on the (relatively) newer freewheels let you mount cog and spacers on any of Shimano, SunTour or SunRace freewheels without having to resort to using the kludgy lockcogs from the older models.

Removing the lockring from the factory torqued freewheel, the first time around, requires brute force and a hammer and punch, in my experience.

Once you rebuild the SS however, you don't need to hammer the snot out of the lockring to secure it, and a gentle approach makes it easier to remove and change the cog.

I happen to have a large set of bent needle nose pliers, with a 50mm spread at the jaws, and they work a charm.

Shimano lockring in place;

Finger Gear Circle Household hardware Nail


Freewheel and large needle nose pliers;

Metalworking hand tool Still life photography Wire


Lockring removal;

Human Finger Drinkware Nail Tool


The pliers are a house brand of MasterCraft from the local Cambodian Tire (Crappy Tire or Canadian Tire, depending where in Canada you live). I'm not sure how you measure the length, but the tool from the grips to the bend of the tips is 7' and the maw of the jaws extended is 50mm (2'). Plenty of torque to remove a lockring that is moderately tightened.

Cheers

dmc
 
#16 ·
Classic SunTour...

FKMTB07 said:
As I was reading this, I was thinking "I've got a bunch of Suntour freewheels, I wonder how those are put together" then, "oh, there it is. Cool."

Looks like I'll be spending some time in the ole' workshop tonight...

Much love for the cool mod and recycle job.
Thanks FKMTB07 - I like the SunTour - the older model with the fully threaded outer shoulder lets you go to 19t without a lockring or cog.

I know that the early 1980s used the two-prong removal tool (Park FR-2), and 1986 and later used the four-prong tool (Park FR-3).

What I don't know is if the post 1986 still used the fully threaded lower shoulder. Sadly I threw out my only newer SunTour Pro years ago, all I have left is the Park FR-3...hehe..

If you break down a few SunTour, come back and post how the newer ones are put together...:)

Cheers

dmc

PS - be sure to drip oil (I like cheap ATF) into the threads a while before you tackle the lockcogs. Makes a huge difference.
 
#17 ·
Chain 'should' be OK. for 5-6-7-8.

Thanks DMC! Again.

I don't think any of the components in question have significant wear. The old cogs have very few miles on them...maybe 100. And the MTB cranks got retired because the granny and middle were toast, but the big ring is in great shape. I am concerned about chain line, and will need to play with that as I put this all together. The dropout are semi-horizontal, so I have that going for me.

The original crankset is a total POS. It's too short (165) and the arm and 52 ring are one piece. The inner ring then just bolts to the other (no spider). So that's gotta go...and 52 x 17 sounds too big to me.

I'll see what I have for chains. I think I have a couple of almost new SRAM 8sp ones. (One of my kid's bikes got horrible chain suck and 1 or 2 links got totally bent in getting it unjammed, but otherwise are like new.) And will run PowerLink as I'm a big fan of the simplicity.

Rob
 
#18 ·
deadmanschest said:
Thanks FKMTB07 - I like the SunTour - the older model with the fully threaded outer shoulder lets you go to 19t without a lockring or cog.

I know that the early 1980s used the two-prong removal tool (Park FR-2), and 1986 and later used the four-prong tool (Park FR-3).

What I don't know is if the post 1986 still used the fully threaded lower shoulder. Sadly I threw out my only newer SunTour Pro years ago, all I have left is the Park FR-3...hehe..

If you break down a few SunTour, come back and post how the newer ones are put together...:)

Cheers

dmc

PS - be sure to drip oil (I like cheap ATF) into the threads a while before you tackle the lockcogs. Makes a huge difference.
I've got one from 1979 and one from 1990. I'll do the '90 first and report back with my findings regarding the fully threaded shoulders. Should be able to get to it tonight.
 
#19 ·
Just pulled apart a 6 speed Suntour freewheel from 90 or 91. The freewheel uses a lockcog on the outside followed by three different spline sizes. Ugh, not to versatile.

I screwed the freewheel to the end of a 4' 2x4 to allow me to brace the other end of the 2x4 under my armpit so I could get both hands on the chainwhip and really lean on it. I needed all that extra oomph.
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Here's a shot of the body, disassembled.
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This shot shows the farthest each cog group will slide down the body. The two biggest can slide all the way down, the middle two halfway down, and the smallest two just barely down the body (including the lockcog). Three different sized spacers are used on this one. I feel like it wouldn't be as easy to really dial in cog size or chainline with this one.
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I may start a project to sacrifice the lockcog and transform it into a lockring of sorts, just for aesthetic purposes.

While I was downstairs with the 6spd, I pulled apart a Suntour Perfect 5. Just like was mentioned, the first two cogs thread on and the rest sit behind it with metal spacers on the splines. I'd like to use this one as a conversion, but there's some lateral play inside the freewheel. Anyone know how to get in there and poke around? More out of curiosity, I won't be too upset if this thing is junk.
 
#21 ·
Sounds good to go..

robrob said:
Thanks DMC! Again.

I don't think any of the components in question have significant wear. The old cogs have very few miles on them...maybe 100. And the MTB cranks got retired because the granny and middle were toast, but the big ring is in great shape. I am concerned about chain line, and will need to play with that as I put this all together. The dropout are semi-horizontal, so I have that going for me.

The original crankset is a total POS. It's too short (165) and the arm and 52 ring are one piece. The inner ring then just bolts to the other (no spider). So that's gotta go...and 52 x 17 sounds too big to me.

I'll see what I have for chains. I think I have a couple of almost new SRAM 8sp ones. (One of my kid's bikes got horrible chain suck and 1 or 2 links got totally bent in getting it unjammed, but otherwise are like new.) And will run PowerLink as I'm a big fan of the simplicity.

Rob
Hey Rob - yep, slap the big triple on the middle position of the mtn crank and space the freewheel for the centre and should be really close. 42 x 17 is good for town, a little tall for hills and wind.

Have fun

dmc
 
#22 ·
Armpit Vice Adaptor!

FKMTB07 said:
Just pulled apart a 6 speed Suntour freewheel from 90 or 91. The freewheel uses a lockcog on the outside followed by three different spline sizes. Ugh, not to versatile.

I screwed the freewheel to the end of a 4' 2x4 to allow me to brace the other end of the 2x4 under my armpit so I could get both hands on the chainwhip and really lean on it. I needed all that extra oomph.
Hehe - Armpit Vice Adaptor!, love it. I like seeing pictures of workbenches with all kinds of parts and stuff lying all around, sometimes I spend 10 minutes pushing stuff to the edges to get a small clear spot to work in...hehe..

The 6 speed SunTour is disappointing, with the 3 sizes, may be the best is to use the 5 speed body and see what teeth count you have in the thread on cogs. Looks like 13t, probably 14 or 15t and 19t?

Check out the Sheldon Brown link for info on disassembly of the body - the wisdom is don't do it....

http://sheldonbrown.com/freewheels.html

Apparently 64 little ball bearings will spill out all over the floor...What you can try is just put the 5 speed body into a yogourt cup and fill with heavy (30+) oil. Let is percolate a while and then drain. Helps to quiet the pawls and maybe give new life to the old gal...

Otherwise, just scrounge a couple of Shimano freewheels and experiment. Its clear to me that the SunTour 5 speed is probably the only workable one, cause you can just run the first threaded lockcog up to the centre and be done with it...The later proprietary cogs look to be a pita...

One clarification for folks - The Shimano HyperGlide lockrings work on all Shimano bodies (I think) and on SunRace bodies. The Shimano lockring does not fit on the SunTour 5 and I am assuming not on the 6 either...

Cheers

dmc
 
#23 ·
deadmanschest said:
Hehe - Armpit Vice Adaptor!, love it. I like seeing pictures of workbenches with all kinds of parts and stuff lying all around, sometimes I spend 10 minutes pushing stuff to the edges to get a small clear spot to work in...hehe..

The 6 speed SunTour is disappointing, with the 3 sizes, may be the best is to use the 5 speed body and see what teeth count you have in the thread on cogs. Looks like 13t, probably 14 or 15t and 19t?

Check out the Sheldon Brown link for info on disassembly of the body - the wisdom is don't do it....

http://sheldonbrown.com/freewheels.html

Apparently 64 little ball bearings will spill out all over the floor...What you can try is just put the 5 speed body into a yogourt cup and fill with heavy (30+) oil. Let is percolate a while and then drain. Helps to quiet the pawls and maybe give new life to the old gal...

Otherwise, just scrounge a couple of Shimano freewheels and experiment. Its clear to me that the SunTour 5 speed is probably the only workable one, cause you can just run the first threaded lockcog up to the centre and be done with it...The later proprietary cogs look to be a pita...

One clarification for folks - The Shimano HyperGlide lockrings work on all Shimano bodies (I think) and on SunRace bodies. The Shimano lockring does not fit on the SunTour 5 and I am assuming not on the 6 either...

Cheers

dmc
Yeah, haha. Bonus points to who can identify the most crap in the background of those pictures.

From Sheldon:
"Use a hammer and punch (or an old flat-blade screwdriver) to drive the ring in a clockwise direction. This ring is actually a bearing cone with a left ("reverse") thread, and once you have removed it you will see a row of 1/8" bearing balls and a stack of very thin washers surrounding the threads that the cone threaded on to. These are shim washers, and you can remove one or more of them to make the bearing tighter, if the freewheel has too much play." I may give it a go just through this part and see if I can't remove one of those shim washers to tighted it up a bit. Who knows? The worst that happens is I ruin a 28 year old freewheel that I wouldn't be using anyways. This experiment is mostly out of curiosity.
 
#24 ·
Links to Freewheel Vice Adaptor and Misc. tools..

hi all - happened to stumble onto a link to BikeTools.Etc which has a couple of the elusive Vice adaptors for freewheels

Bicycle Research Vice Adaptor

VAR Regina Freewheel Body Holder

The Bicycle Research adaptor is one that I have seen before, the latter Regina tool is getting into the heights of obscurity...

Cheers

dmc
 
#26 ·
When I was a lad and used to hang around the bike shop (what's changed) one of my privileges was to stand on the pedals of a bike (in low gear) while the chainwhip was applied to the small cog/lockring.

It usually worked, but I did learn a lot of useful new words to use in less polite society.
 
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