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just mounted my heim/lrp tensioner as suggested by none other than yerself. id like to bolt it to the iscg mount but ive got some clearence issues with the small ring h/ware that i need to work out if at all possible. the temps are to be in the low 50's tomorrow so if the trails are dry enough to ride ill test it out on the nickle bags first ride. thanx for the help on this one and all the rest. happy krismiss pal.