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I think I've got it narrowed down to Stans ZTR Flows with Hope Pro II hubs. But I'm also looking at Stans ZTR Flows with ZTR hubs and Sun Ringle Charger Expert. Any thoughts? BTW I'm about 230 fully geared and ride mostly all day XC/AM type stuff and am pretty easy on my equipment. Here's a link for the Suns. http://www.sun-ringle.com/mtb/wheelsets/charger-expert/
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Stans and Hope hubs. The chargers are nice, but the Hope hubs, both front and rear are convertible to just about any axle diameter out there which makes the wheel set ready for just about any fork or frame. Except of course 142mm and 150mm rear hub spacings. Hardest part is picking a color.
I'd also like to recommend Easton Havoc or Haven's since they are around the same price. If you can afford to go big, then Industry 9 or The rims you chose with Chris King or even DT Swiss 240 hubs.
Thanks for your input. I found some Easton Havocs for $320. Can they be set up tubeless? I'm looking for something that is tubeless ready. I've ran tubeless for 2-3 years and don't want to go back. I've got a few friends with the Flo's and so far they've been bomb proof. I can also get the Hopes with a 10mm thru axle in the rear which is what I have.
I have the Sun Ringle Charger Pro wheels and they are very nice.

They use the same rim profile as a Stan's Flow, but they have a deeper, stronger profile. They also use eyelets so they can be (and are) tensioned higher than a Flow rim, which require lower tension to keep from cracking at the spoke holes.

The Charger Pro's are straight pull spokes with higher tension, and at 1700 grams are quite light, but also very stiff.

Mine came with end caps for 9mm quick release, and both 15mm and 20mm through axles. They came with Stan's yellow tape installed, and Stans tubeless valve stems, as well as 2 bottles of Stan's sealant. Everything you need to mount up tubeless.

You can find them for $432 right now. They are a pretty good wheelset for the price IMO.
twowheelsdown2002 said:
You can find them for $432 right now. They are a pretty good wheelset for the price IMO.
Thanks. Where did you find the Pros for $432? I've found the Experts for $417. I like the look of the Pros better.
UPSed said:
Thanks. Where did you find the Pros for $432? I've found the Experts for $417. I like the look of the Pros better.
I did a search with Google, and then clicked on "shopping", and then selected "low to high" on the "sort by".

On AEBike.com they have the white ones for 431.99.

If you have to have the black ones, Speedgoat has them for $467.
UPSed said:
Thanks. Where did you find the Pros for $432? I've found the Experts for $417. I like the look of the Pros better.
Here are a couple reviews of the Charger Pro wheels.

http://reviews.mtbr.com/blog/sun-ringle-charger-pro-review/

http://www.singletracks.com/blog/mtb-gear/sun-ringle-charger-pro-mtb-wheelset-review/
Thanks. I found the Speedgoats. I was actually looking for white wheels. I'll check out AEBike. Thanks again.

$432 shipped for Pro and $338 shipped for Expert. Like the reviews. Will have to sleep on it. Thanks again.
as long as its the regular havocs (ust/clincher) and not the havoc dh, then yes, they are tubeless.

UPSed said:
Thanks for your input. I found some Easton Havocs for $320. Can they be set up tubeless? I'm looking for something that is tubeless ready. I've ran tubeless for 2-3 years and don't want to go back. I've got a few friends with the Flo's and so far they've been bomb proof. I can also get the Hopes with a 10mm thru axle in the rear which is what I have.
New wheels

I've been looking for a new wheelset also. Have it down to the Sun Ringle Charger Pro's and American Classic All Mountain 26 Tubeless.

Anyone have experience with the American Classics??
twowheelsdown2002 said:
The Charger Pro's are straight pull spokes with higher tension, and at 1700 grams are quite light, but also very stiff.
where did you see that weight ?? according to OP's link they are ...

•26″-1825g , 29er-1950g :confused:
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Experts are 1825g, Pros are 1699g.
TwoHeadsBrewing said:
Experts are 1825g, Pros are 1699g.
ah got ya !! THANKS ! :thumbsup:

so is there a weight limit on these rims ? im 225lbs and ride street mostly with a few curb jumps etc. nothing extreme since theres nothing in this town to ride extreme... :rolleyes:
qkenuf4u said:
ah got ya !! THANKS ! :thumbsup:

so is there a weight limit on these rims ? im 225lbs and ride street mostly with a few curb jumps etc. nothing extreme since theres nothing in this town to ride extreme... :rolleyes:
Read the links to the reviews and search for more. I think you'll be fine. BTW I ordered the Charger Pros from Universal for $456 after using their vip15 code for 15% off orders over $300.
Flow/Hope wheelset at Speedgoat

Hey UPSed,

I was just looking at speedgoat.com again and you can have them build a custom wheelset. I put together a set of Stans ZTR Flows (white) with Hope Pro II hubs (red) with black spokes and red nips for $606.98, that seems like a really good deal. However I don't know if SpeedGoat is a reputable wheelbuilder or not.:rolleyes:

Anyone know??
got this reply from STANS......

Loaded question! Is there a hard limit? No. I have a friend riding a set who's a bit in the Clydesdale class (putting it politely) at 240 and he's had no problems with them. But he's also a really smooth rider, and that makes a lot of difference. The Charger series is really set up to be the everyman's set of wheels, the set you ride hard and often. As such we designed the rim to be able to take a beating.
Stans Flow or Archs, laced to Hope Pro II hubs.....Enough said.

Sure, there are more high end options....But you can't beat the toughness/value/niceness, etc of the Hope/stans!
twowheelsdown2002 said:
I did a search with Google, and then clicked on "shopping", and then selected "low to high" on the "sort by".

On AEBike.com they have the white ones for 431.99.

If you have to have the black ones, Speedgoat has them for $467.
$130 less for the SR Charger sounds like the deal.
I have about 10 rides on the Charger Pro wheels, and I am really liking them.:thumbsup:

They hold air perfect, running WTB Dissent tires at 25psi front, and 26psi rear. The spokes seem to be as tight as the day I put them on.

I rode some really rocky chunk last night, and between the stiff frame of the Knolly Endorphin, and a Talas 36 fork, and these wheels, it seemed like I could aim the bike anywhere with complete confidence. No wheel flex detected, I could aim right at a big rock and pick my line on the other side and not feel the bike change direction at all. Very confidence inspiring.

I am not a hucker, but weigh about 190#, and ride some really rocky trails. So far the wheels are great.:thumbsup:
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