[4212darren]

I'm going to order a set of Chris King Iso Disc hubs(Navy) and need ideas for the rims, spokes and nipples. These wheels will race and trail ride and are going on my new Mojo. I want tubeless rims also.

 

[gateCrasher]

I'm doing something similar. CK ISO hubs with Mavic 819 rims. Undecided on spokes and nipples, but I do think I'll go with brass nipples.

 

[Kris]

If you want UST tubeless Mavic 819's would be a good, yet somewhat heavy choise. You could go with a DT Swiss 4.2 with their tubeless kit, might weigh less than the 819's, but seams more kludgy.

If you really want UST tubeless I'd get a new set of Crossmax SL(R), supposedly the freehub has been improved for faster takeup and better reliability. Sure they are very expensive, but so are Kings. If cost is a factor, consider getting them online from some place like chainreactioncycles.com, they have smoking prices.

 

[Mike T.]

I'm going to order a set of Chris King Iso Disc hubs(Navy) and need ideas for the rims, spokes and nipples. These wheels will race and trail ride and are going on my new Mojo. I want tubeless rims also.

I don't know anything about tubless rims but I built up my top-flite wheels a couple of years ago based on King Iso hubs. I went with DT-Swiss rims and they are nice. Aslo I used Sapim CX-Ray spokes ($$, but so are your hubs) and aluminum nipples. I'm close to 200 lbs and the alum nipples are just fine.

 

[gateCrasher]

Aren't the Crossmax wheels considered "wheel systems" , ie, impossible to replace hubs,etc? What about the serviceability? I considered them also..there are some in the classified section at a real good price. I'd want to find out more about the warranty on them - does it transfer with ownership? How long is it? I know that the CK hubs have a 5 year warranty. That's pretty good.

 

[4212darren]

I'm riding Crossmax SL's now. They are all right but I'm going for the dream build and the Red SLR hubs won't cut it. I saw some I-9 wheels that had Blue spokes but Siver hubs and I would like Blue spokes and Blue hubs but will probably settle for Blue hub Black spokes and rims.

 

[pvd]

Mavic 819's

use the lightest spokes you can on both sides of both wheels. 1.8/1.5/1.8 is a good choice.

use 12mm alloy nipples, not the 16mm suggested by mavic.

3 cross is hard to beat. go 2 cross on 3 sides if you are super light.

tension the spokes until you think that the nipples are just about to fail.

see:

http://www.pvdwiki.com/index.php?title=Disc_wheel_Lacing

http://www.pvdwiki.com/index.php?title=Spoke_Threadlocker

 

[Bikerbob.com]

Best bang for the buck?

I'm building up a Motolite Exogrid for a display/demo bike.
Keeping in mind that I get EP or wholeale pricing, what wheelset offers the best bling/weight/function factor? I have to sell them before the end of the season, so popularity is a factor.
I9's take too long to get.
Mavic Crossmax SLR are available and look great. Same for new XTR.
American Classic are light and affordable, but add no color to the ti/carbon frame.
Stan's is building wheels now. Various hubs to choose from.
Chris King, too noisy and common.
Cane Creek, or build my own with red Hope Pro II-another possibility.
I'm fond of red accents on titanium.

So?

 

[DeeEight]

see:

http://www.pvdwiki.com/index.php?title=Disc_wheel_Lacing

http://www.pvdwiki.com/index.php?title=Spoke_Threadlocker

See that if you want to learn from a moron. See Jobst Brandt's book The Bicycle Wheel if you want to learn from an expert.

Its available on amazon

 

[SSINGA]

I9's are worth the wait. They are more than just eye-candy. :thumbsup:

 

[pvd]

See Jobst Brandt's book The Bicycle Wheel if you want to learn from an expert.

oh my god! are you kidding? sure, he tells you the basics for building a really heavy set of touring wheels, but not light high performance wheels.

that book is responsible for far too many heavy wheels being built.

 

[4212darren]

I9's are worth the wait. They are more than just eye-candy. :thumbsup:

Where's a good place to buy an I-9? I'm not in a big hurry because it's winter and I have my Crossmax's to ride on in the meantime. I saw somewhere that you can custom order colors and I NEED Blue hubs and spokes!

 

[Becane73]

In all honesty,
Save yourself time and money and get a set of CrossMax or Cane Creek Zonos. IMHO they're better than anything you or anyone else can build for the money.

If you've never built a wheel before then I can tell you it's lot of sitting and spinning till you get the wheel perfect and they still won't look as nice as those. If you don't mind the work then go for it.

Also,
I've heard CK hubs are overrated for the money. If you're still intent on going that route, then might I recommend the Mavic XC717 (This was what I built my wheel with). If you're planning to go tubeless Mavic 819 would be my choice.

For spoke you probably want to go with the DT Revolution and aluminum nipples.

edit: oh wait you're going to the I9... niiiice :thumbsup:

 

[Becane73]

I'm building up a Motolite Exogrid for a display/demo bike.
Keeping in mind that I get EP or wholeale pricing, what wheelset offers the best bling/weight/function factor? I have to sell them before the end of the season, so popularity is a factor.
I9's take too long to get.
Mavic Crossmax SLR are available and look great. Same for new XTR.
American Classic are light and affordable, but add no color to the ti/carbon frame.
Stan's is building wheels now. Various hubs to choose from.
Chris King, too noisy and common.
Cane Creek, or build my own with red Hope Pro II-another possibility.
I'm fond of red accents on titanium.

So?

Bob,

I envy you sooooo much.

 

[EnduroRacer128]

Speedgoat.com has I9s. I'm not sure about color choices, so call them

 

[SSINGA]

In all honesty,
Save yourself time and money and get a set of CrossMax or Cane Creek Zonos. IMHO they're better than anything you or anyone else can build for the money.

I completely disagree with that statement. There are plenty of choices out there that function better and last longer than the CrossMax. A good wheel builder (Like Larry at Mtn High) could definately build a longer lasting and better working wheel for the same cost as the Mavics also.

That said, the I9's are so friggin sweet. Ultra stiff with super fast engagement. There is no flex in these wheels and when you stomp the pedals they go. Durability has been great on my set I've been running since early spring of 06. No issues what-so-ever.

DId I mention how sweet they look? Even in all black they are works of art. :thumbsup:

 

[4212darren]

I'm trying to track down the weight of an 819 on an I-9 hub/spoke setup. How this gonna compare to the others? 1500 grams for the pair?

 

[TiEndo]

Where's a good place to buy an I-9? I'm not in a big hurry because it's winter and I have my Crossmax's to ride on in the meantime. I saw somewhere that you can custom order colors and I NEED Blue hubs and spokes!

I ordered mine from Chad at Red Barn bicycles.........He's the guy who made Foshizzle's CUSTOM I-9 wheelset (literally, only guy I know outside of I-9 that has done a complete wheelbuild outside of the I-9 building)........In fact a guy on the Deals forum just checked 10 places and ended up ordering from Chad( on my recommendation)........I ordered mine just before Christmas and they showed up at his door last week(hasn't shipped to me yet as I added more goods Fri and today......international order so I only want 1 big box).

Chad knows his wheelbuilds and to alleviate any of my doubts he had me talk to Jeff at I-9 as well.......Jeff Knows his Sh$T.......they literally put together something for all of my needs, not just a standard wheelset (enduro hub to DT4.2......I'm a fan of DT's tubeless system)........here's a pic of the wheels on Chad's workbench(bugger sends me porn....the tease) and cause this is a international purchase......He even rechecked all the tensions for me and inspected before repacking (better said then some other dealers who reforward the delivery box to ya)

My second choice would be Larry at Mt. Highcyclery........good guy, decent prices, but another great wheelbuilder who knows his sh*t.

 

[4212darren]

What do they weigh?

 

[TiEndo]

What do they weigh?

If you go DT 4.1 to allmountain hubset..........1640 grams
If you go DT4.2 to all mountain hubset..........1590 grams
If you go ultralite wheelset (Stans 355 rim, 0.9 spokes, 3 pawl hubset, al endcaps).......1350 grams.......but this is primarily only a XC racer wheelset.
If you go Mavic 819 add about 100 grams
That set is DT4.2 to Enduro set so back to 1650 grams(optional Thru axle 20 or 24)

Use 0.9 spokes save 80 grams
Add Al end cap option save 40 grams

With I-9 the world is your oyster, pick a color, lighten/strengthen the hubset, pick a rim, whatever, they'll do anything for a price...........