I was looking at new frames this particular shop,and went to a shop that sells ellsworth to check out a truth. I mentioned that I also wanted to look at a Turner Flux, and the shop guy told me that Turner licences its suspension design from ellsworth, and proceeded to tell me some story about Turner being required to display licensce info on its bikes and hiding them with chainstay protectors. I am wondering if there is any truth to his tale. Does Turner pay license fees to ellsworth for use of thier design???