I live at the base of Cedro and I can tell you that everything north facing or in the shade still has some snow on it. My driveway has had the same 1/2 inch of ice on it for a week and a half now. The snow is not the problem, its the mud that forms near it. I suppose if you were out early in the morning then everything would still be frozen solid and mud would not be a problem but if you wait until it warms up you will encounter at least one mud bog (and it only takes one good one). You might get lucky in the east mountains and not hit any mud but the south loop in the foothills is a safe bet. Plus it will be at least 5 degrees colder out in the mountains, with lots more shade to make it even colder.rusty4x said: