I found this post looking for comments on El Camino brakes but I figured I'd pipe up. I ride a Haro. Mine's a 2004 Werx XLS. It's my second one, used to have a 2003 Extreme X3. Alot of people turn their nose up at them but whatever... just how nice can you make a single pivot bike anyway? Haro can build bikes that hang with some heavyweight contenders. I mean, even Santa Cruz bikes are coming out of Taiwan just like Haro so who cares. I think limited choices are hurting them though. They are making some pretty nice and cheap freeride/trail bikes nowadays but you only have the choice of what they provide. I mean, they should offer some build and paint choices. They should at least allow for a shock upgrade on some of the "extreme" line of bikes. The only separate 5" or 6" freeride frame you can buy separately is pretty beefy but it only has a Metel shock and only comes in one finish/color? Their singlespeed frame is painted like it came from the 70's? And they're really expecting to sell alot of them? Some people fall in love, but the odds of a person getting matched up with a bike he really wants for the budget he wants with the build he wants and the color/finish he wants are really slim. So what happens? Nobody buys them. They sit in the store for months then eventually get dumped on eBay for wholesale cost, leading everybody to believe that they're a cheap POS, especially since the prices are a little lower than the competition anyway if you get a full build. The bike I've got is pretty much identical to a SuperLite except stronger, anodized frame, mailbox shaped hydroformed tubing, gussetted the same way as some 5" dirt jump bikes they've made, pretty nice. I ride in the Shawnee National Forest alot which has hundreds of miles of some pretty nasty trails, I slam it against rocks constantly, ride it in gritty mud alot, even put a 6" Nixon on what is supposed to be a 4" lightweight XC bike then took it off 5" drops to flat ground and even told the warranty department what I was doing... they didn't care and it still looks and feels nearly brand new. All that and I've seen these Werx XLS frames on eBay in the $300 range, brand new. I got my bike for $1,600 brand new... it's a $2,800 bike. I don't know of a single other bike company that performs as well yet has such a hard time with prices and reputation among non-owners.