[FujiRich]

Virtually identical stock spec, but which one would be the better bet for XC/trail riding?

 

[CBookman]

the P.1 is a jumping bike, the hardrock is an entry level XC bike.

 

[rvsteele]

yep go with the hardrock for XC..p.1 is probably heavier too

 

[mattyfury]

I have a Hardrock and its a great entry level bike. The HR is a good climber and its pretty burly for a hardtail. Its comfy and all the stock components are decent.

The p1 is a diffrent breed of bike. The riding position isnt ment for XC and the seat is set real low. As everyone mentioned its a stunt/jump bike. You might be able to get away with some trail riding but stock it comes with urban tires rather then XC stuff.

 

[bitewerks]

The P1 AM is a all-mountain bike. I have one & the seat isn't set low. I think there's another P1 bike that's for dirt jumping. The AM is heavy but I'm managing pretty well for a beginner with climbing & I'm a big guy. Guess it would be good if you plan to ride rough. I wanted something that I could afford that would take my abuse. So far, it has.

 

[FujiRich]

Yeah I noticed the standard P1 has the low seat etc which is why I was querying the P1 AM, the headtube assembly looks stronger than the Hardrock and the specs of the bikes are very similar with only the frame and tyres really differing.
I was wondering how much of a difference the frame would make with regards to XC/trail riding. Would it be heavier than a Hardraock (which is not the lightest of bikes let's face it!) and would it be able to stand more abuse?

 

[FLMike]

P1 dirt jumper: http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bc/SBCBkModel.jsp?spid=39175

P1 all mountain disc: http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bc/SBCBkModel.jsp?spid=40346