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Hey guys ~

New to anything but rigid bikes, but recently had my old bike stolen :nonod: and found an '06 Kona Kula that I really liked.
A few weeks before I got mine, my girlfriend got an IronHorse Warrior which she loves so far.

So here's my question:

Having never ridden a hardtail, I really liked the feel of my girlfriend's fork which is a Tora 302 Air. Smooth, soft, fluid and silent except for a slight sound of air. Mine on the other hand, in comparison, (Gran Fondo 1) is loud (sort of squeaky & rubby), not so smooth and fluid, and seems quite rigid in even after I released all the air.
Can anyone tell me what I might be experiencing here? Just different style/brand of fork? Adjustments? Oil?

Thanks,
Eric
 

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Hi again ~

Just wondering if maybe there was another section or site I could post this question where someone might be able to help me out. (Tried the Kona section)

Thanks, Eric
 

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Erock99 said:
Hi again ~

Just wondering if maybe there was another section or site I could post this question where someone might be able to help me out. (Tried the Kona section)

Thanks, Eric
Here in the shocks forum is the most appropriate spot. The gran fondo is not a very popular fork as far as i know, so that is probably why you have not gotten much feedback. the few reviews seem to indicate that it is pretty plush. if it is new, maybe it just needs more time to break in?

probably a silly question, but if it has a lockout feature, make sure it is not on.
 

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It's the fork

If you read Marzocchi's web site, the Fondo servies of forks are what they call "Trekking" forks. Marzocchi doesn't even rate them suitable for XC singletrack use. Why Kona put these forks on bikes that are supposed to be used off road is a mystery to me.

I have no personal experience with the Fondo, my guess would be that your comparison of the Fondo to the Tora finds the Tora more plush because it's a better fork. It's just that simple. There may also be some soret of problem with the Fondo, but out of the gates, the Fondo's at a disadvantage when you compare the two.

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You know the Kula is an entry-level cross country race bike with a 105 mm travel fork: https://www.konart.net/2K6_Catalog_Proof_pgs28-29.jpg

https://www.konaworld.com/tech/frame_specs_hardtails.htm

You know the Gran Fondo I is listed by Marzocchi as a trekking fork with the 105mm travel: https://www.marzocchi.com/template/detailSPAForksMTB.asp?IDFolder=113&IDOggetto=28094&LN=UK&Sito=mtb

Marzocchi defines trekking: https://www.marzocchi.com/spa/mtb/products/popUp-uses.asp?IDFolder=133&IDOggetto=2479&LN=UK

Read on pp. 26-29 in your Kona Owner's Manual about setting up the sag on your fork: https://www.konaworld.com/tech/pdfs/owner_manual.pdf

My 9 months of personal experience with a 120 mm Grand Fondo I fork on my 06 Dawg Deluxe: The fork has continued to be a little sticky over small bumps, but works well over larger bumps, small to medium sized rocks, and etc. When the sag and rebound damping are dialed in, the fork rides well within it's intended use (as defined above). If I get into steep trails and/or big rocks and medium or larger drops (over 2 ft) I will use the full range of travel. I don't jump with this fork. More aggressive riding than I've described probably indicates that you need a different fork, and probably a different bike. Hope this helps.
 

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That's exactly the info I was looking for . . .

I will probably try to dial it in some & give it some ride time to see what happens.
I'm noticing a slight, but definite "stick" before any movement which is non-existent on the Tora

It is a little odd that Kona put that fork on the Kula.

Thank you all a bunch for your time
Eric
 

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I stand corrected

4slomo said:
You know the Gran Fondo I is listed by Marzocchi as a trekking fork with the 105mm travel: http://www.marzocchi.com/template/detailSPAForksMTB.asp?IDFolder=113&IDOggetto=28094&LN=UK&Sito=mtb

Marzocchi defines trekking: http://www.marzocchi.com/spa/mtb/products/popUp-uses.asp?IDFolder=133&IDOggetto=2479&LN=UK

My 9 months of personal experience with a 120 mm Grand Fondo I fork on my 06 Dawg Deluxe: The fork has continued to be a little sticky over small bumps, but works well over larger bumps, small to medium sized rocks, and etc. When the sag and rebound damping are dialed in, the fork rides well within it's intended use (as defined above). If I get into steep trails and/or big rocks and medium or larger drops (over 2 ft) I will use the full range of travel. I don't jump with this fork. More aggressive riding than I've described probably indicates that you need a different fork, and probably a different bike. Hope this helps.
It would appear that Marzocchi has combined the Trekking and Cross Country definition into one. When the Fondo came out, this is how they defined it:

"Trekking: Trekking is similar to XC riding but not as aggressive as XC. It involves slower riding and no riding obstacles such as rocks, roots, or depressions. You should only attach generators and racks to the designated mounting points provided on the forks. Never make any modification to your fork to attach any equipment."

Makes it sound like the Fondo was intended for the hybrid crowd.

Thanks again for clarifying.

Bob
 
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