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How many people out there use clipless ( mallet C, etc ) for freeride / downhill, and what are good clipless pedals for this?

Why am I writing this? Because I have always used clipless and can't get used to platforms on my new bike, my feet seem to bounce around and on jumps ... scary
 

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Mallet Cs...

For everything except DJ or NS.

But flats are real good too.

If your feet bounce off too much could be combination but not limited to riding style, line choices, how much suspension and suspension set up.
 

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Here's a list...

CB Mallets
Shimano 647's
Time Atac Z's

All the above mentioned pedals work well, the real deciding factor is personal preference. .
 

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If you "have to go clipless":yesnod: then these are very good dh/freeride friendly peds. Blue Sky is the only :incazzato: place I have found to get them, Shimano doesn't make them any more.:eek:ut:

http://www.blueskycycling.com/product148_44_-Shimano-M646-SPD-Pedals-w--SH-51-Cleats.htm

They, (Shimano), have the new 647's as well, I've never ridden them & don't know anyone that has, but after looking at them at th' LBS, :nono: I don't care for'em, I might be wrong but, I see nothing wrong w/te 646's the way they are. Change for the sake of change isn't worth changing,:prft: nomsane?
 

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man w/ one hand said:
If you "have to go clipless":yesnod: then these are very good dh/freeride friendly peds. Blue Sky is the only :incazzato: place I have found to get them, Shimano doesn't make them any more.:eek:ut:

http://www.blueskycycling.com/product148_44_-Shimano-M646-SPD-Pedals-w--SH-51-Cleats.htm

They, (Shimano), have the new 647's as well, I've never ridden them & don't know anyone that has, but after looking at them at th' LBS, :nono: I don't care for'em, I might be wrong but, I see nothing wrong w/te 646's the way they are. Change for the sake of change isn't worth changing,:prft: nomsane?
I have beem using those pedals for going on 5 years now. I even managed to twist my crank arms without bending the pedal spindles on a fail wheelie drop on a hardtail. I switched over to mallet c's when I couldn't get them anymore, but went back to my old trusty 646's, infact I am going to order another pair from blue sky cycling.

The mallet c;s got used only on a XC single speed and bent with no large drops or jumping. two pairs did the same thing in less then a couple months for me.
 

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My roommate using the mallet c's on a pedi cab also known as a bike cab,

absolutly nothing but slow, street, beach cruser style riding w/ them. It took 11 months or so of riding them before one just snapped off the crank arm. Although the weight pulled with thoes cranks is beyond normal use I'm sure.
 

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The 647s are good.

man w/ one hand said:
If you "have to go clipless":yesnod: then these are very good dh/freeride friendly peds. Blue Sky is the only :incazzato: place I have found to get them, Shimano doesn't make them any more.:eek:ut:

http://www.blueskycycling.com/product148_44_-Shimano-M646-SPD-Pedals-w--SH-51-Cleats.htm

They, (Shimano), have the new 647's as well, I've never ridden them & don't know anyone that has, but after looking at them at th' LBS, :nono: I don't care for'em, I might be wrong but, I see nothing wrong w/te 646's the way they are. Change for the sake of change isn't worth changing,:prft: nomsane?
I have a pair of the old 636 and 656 full metal pedals, and they are great pedals. However, I started seeing these 647s mentioned on many factory racer's bikes, so I gave them a try. The resin cage on these is nothing like the 434 pedals which crack and break too easily. I have the 647s on a Nomad, which is a lower riding pedal-smacker, and they have been great. The high tech resin cage material is unbelieveably tough. I like the way they drag on and strike the rocks a little better than my metal cage Shimanos.

Mallets are also popular, but I still don't like the fact that you can't get your cleat out until you clear that required angle, regardless of what's happening. The 647 lets you adjust how much cleat retention you have...from sloppy fit to "welded in".
 

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TNC said:
I have a pair of the old 636 and 656 full metal pedals, and they are great pedals. However, I started seeing these 647s mentioned on many factory racer's bikes, so I gave them a try. The resin cage on these is nothing like the 434 pedals which crack and break too easily. I have the 647s on a Nomad, which is a lower riding pedal-smacker, and they have been great. The high tech resin cage material is unbelieveably tough. I like the way they drag on and strike the rocks a little better than my metal cage Shimanos.

Mallets are also popular, but I still don't like the fact that you can't get your cleat out until you clear that required angle, regardless of what's happening. The 647 lets you adjust how much cleat retention you have...from sloppy fit to "welded in".
When I picked up the 647 pedal at my LBS I was able to squeeze the resin cage & make it flex. Probably a good thing when smackin' rocks an' stuff like you said, but when you need to stand on them bombing through a rock garden they're gonna flex then too...right?.?

That said, the blue sky site info says the 647 has an aluminum cage....type-o??? Or have they re-done them? How are the clips compared to the 646's & 545's?

Czech it

http://www.blueskycycling.com/product2105_44_-Shimano-M647-SPD-Pedals-w--SH-51-Cleats.htm
 

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The old Shimano 646's are the best ever . Find them used if you are lucky .

Or 647's if you can't .
 

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Must be a typo.

man w/ one hand said:
When I picked up the 647 pedal at my LBS I was able to squeeze the resin cage & make it flex. Probably a good thing when smackin' rocks an' stuff like you said, but when you need to stand on them bombing through a rock garden they're gonna flex then too...right?.?

That said, the blue sky site info says the 647 has an aluminum cage....type-o??? Or have they re-done them? How are the clips compared to the 646's & 545's?

Czech it

http://www.blueskycycling.com/product2105_44_-Shimano-M647-SPD-Pedals-w--SH-51-Cleats.htm
The 545's use an aluminum cage. What I don't like about 545s and 434s are the poor support for the cage support at the end of the spindle. If you take one apart, you'll see the "cheapy" factor.

The inner pedal on the old metal DH "6" models is basically the same as the 647. The outer cage support is also up to the same standards. On the cage flex, I think it's the pedal that still does the bulk of the work, with the outer cage just providing additional support. I frequently use mine in the non-clipped-in mode when having to dab and such, and they've always been very secure and stable. I think this is one area where a better quality resin cage was a good idea...whereas the 434 was cream cheese.
 

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TNC said:
The 545's use an aluminum cage. What I don't like about 545s and 434s are the poor support for the cage support at the end of the spindle. If you take one apart, you'll see the "cheapy" factor.

The inner pedal on the old metal DH "6" models is basically the same as the 647. The outer cage support is also up to the same standards. On the cage flex, I think it's the pedal that still does the bulk of the work, with the outer cage just providing additional support. I frequently use mine in the non-clipped-in mode when having to dab and such, and they've always been very secure and stable. I think this is one area where a better quality resin cage was a good idea...whereas the 434 was cream cheese.
May end up having to run the 647's soon'er later. :cryin: I went ahead & put the new 646's I bought on my Bullit, (black), to go w/the new shoes :cornut: I got, seeings how they had new cleats & such. The 646's that were on it are still :winker: good but now they're a good set of bk-ups.:prft: Maybe by th' time I need new peds th' 647's price will be lower or Shimano will have brought :idea: back th' 646.
 
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