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rightguard

Discussion Starter · Jul 28, 2010

I have a 2008 Enduro, and I want to take the top gear off and add a bashguard. I would also like to add a chain tensioner, but don't really understand how these work. Could you give me some advice on a good one.

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zebrahum

· #2 · Jul 28, 2010

If I'm not mistaken, the 2008 Enduros have ISCG tabs, so you're in luck to fit up a chain guide (not a tensioner, that's usually what we call a device to take up slack on a chain when used for a single speed). A guide will help keep the chain from derailing, and if I'm correct, you would probably like to keep the other two chainrings and be able to shift in the front. So in that case, I did some research for you and:

http://www.e13components.com/suppor...08&make=specialized&model=enduro&op=getGuides

I have had nothing but great experience with e13 and have no issue recommending them. Best way to run 2 rings and get a bash would be the DRS or DSS.

rightguard

Discussion Starter · #3 · Jul 28, 2010

Yeah I guess I'm looking for a guide not a tensioner... Are the other types for single ring set ups? Just trying to understand the difference.

I guess I'll have to figure out if I have the iscg tabs, whatever that is. I'm guessing it's the way the rings attach to the crankset.

Thanks

zebrahum

· #4 · Jul 28, 2010

I'm pretty certain that bike has ISCG tabs, if you want, you can look for something like this:

As for ordering, I believe it uses the ISCG standard and not the ISCG '05, so order appropriately.

The bulk of the other guides are for single ring setups. The guides are similar in function, but the single ring guides are more secure at the price of uphill pedaling. I know plenty of people who have ditched both the small and big rings and have gone with really trick LG1 setups, but that may not be for you. I'm personally going to keep my granny for a while as I need to do extended steep uphills that I'm not currently in shape for.

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rightguard

Discussion Starter · #5 · Jul 28, 2010

Yeah I like the granny gears... What about the hammerschmidt thing? Does that do it all for all that $$$$. Seems like a nice system, but out of the budget.

zebrahum

· #6 · Jul 28, 2010

It really is a very nice system. There are a bunch of topics on it around the forums including probably a sticky. It is very expensive and a touch heavy, but it works really well on most bikes.

I wouldn't say it's needed for most people though, just go with a chainguide and you'll be good to go.

oldskoolbiker

· #7 · Jul 28, 2010

The bling option:
Gamut Dual Guide
http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=33813

The budget setup:
Blackspire stinger
http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=16794
and
BBG Bash
http://www.bbgbashguard.com/

Shark

· #8 · Jul 28, 2010

+1 for the BBG bashguard. love mine & hard to beat the price.

Is there a specific reason you want a chainguide? Usually if you have a front derailleur (2 rings, granny & middle) you won't be dropping a chain very often if ever.

crump582

· #9 · Jul 28, 2010

I have a BBG... love it. Shipped fast, went on easy, and I have never dropped a chain. I also like the fact that I got to drop a couple links of chain for faster shifting and less chain rattle.

rightguard

Discussion Starter · #10 · Jul 29, 2010

Right now I have 3 rings up front, usually ride in the middle, and throw the chain once a ride or maybe a little more. Just thought it might be nice to fix that.

rightguard

Discussion Starter · #11 · Aug 4, 2010

Ok I want to order one of the e thirteen drs guard and chain guide, but I don't know what size to order.

What is the 36t or 40t, don't really understand this?

Bail_Monkey

· #12 · Aug 4, 2010

Don't get the thin BBG bashguard, they are junk and you can't return it... I have a raceface that I had drilled out to loose a little bit of weight...

Wishful Tomcat

· #13 · Aug 4, 2010

When you replace the large chainring with a bashguard adjust the high limit screw on the front derailleur so it won't throw the chain outward as far. If the chain is dropping on the inside adjust the low limit screw. http://www.sheldonbrown.com/derailer-adjustment.html

A much easier and lighter fix than adding a chain tensioner

FrostyStruthers

· #14 · Aug 4, 2010

These days I am running MRP guards. I also run a stinger on a bike with the MRP on XTR. Works great.

:thumbsup:

philw86

· #15 · Aug 4, 2010

rightguard said:
Ok I want to order one of the e thirteen drs guard and chain guide, but I don't know what size to order.

What is the 36t or 40t, don't really understand this?

Hey RG,
If you want to go for a full dual ring setup, the DRS or Heim2 in ISCG-OLD/BB mount are what you want for the Enduro. Setup shouldn't require any modification or anything.

The 36T or 40T refers to the maximum size ring that the bashguard is designed to handle. Most riders use a 36T max for trail use. Most triple cranksets come with a 22/32/44 gearing, but when swapping down to a double it isn't uncommon to switch your middle ring to a 34 or 36T to regain some of the top end gears.

The Heim2 is a great option if you are on a budget or want a simple, no frills dual ring system.
Heim2.36.B.BB

Cheers,

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Shark

· #16 · Aug 4, 2010

Bail_Monkey said:
Don't get the thin BBG bashguard, they are junk and you can't return it... I have a raceface that I had drilled out to loose a little bit of weight...

Why do you say that, just curious? Did you try one of the superlight versions or something?

I hit mine on logs & rocks all the time, haven't been able to bend it.

rightguard

Discussion Starter · #17 · Aug 4, 2010

Phil... thanks that answers my question.

I like the idea of the mrp guards, but most of them don't protect your leg in a crash. There is the one type that is the same as the ethirteen, but then why not just go with the ethirteen.

Thanks again for all the help

NoahColorado

· #18 · Aug 4, 2010

RG,

The MRP LRP iscg version (assuming you have the alum. Enduro) with a Party Crasher Lite bash guard is our best solution for your needs. It will requite a slight modification to the backplate to clear the front derailleur mount on the chainstay of the Enduro (DMD). The mod is rather easy and shouldn't take more than a few minutes with a Dremel or grinding wheel.

Cheers

Bail_Monkey

· #19 · Aug 4, 2010

Shark said:
Why do you say that, just curious? Did you try one of the superlight versions or something?

I hit mine on logs & rocks all the time, haven't been able to bend it.

Yeah, purchased a thin one and bent it in Santa Cruz going over a log. I emailed the guy back to see if I could get the thicker one and he would not take it back. If your going to use a bash guard, you need one that will take a decent hit on a log or rock.

b-kul

· #20 · Aug 4, 2010

what i run:

bash
http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=32404&category=58

but i want to try a gamut bash

guide
http://www.e13components.com/product_ds.html

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