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JustRide44
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So I would never suggest that weight weenies are critical of parts selections :skep: but this is an invitation just in case you have an itch to put in your 2 cents on parts mix for my new Ti. HardTail. Weight is not my #1 priority but it IS very important as you will see from my preliminary selection. I have some stuff already & need to get some stuff but feel free to suggest swaps in either category. Setup is 1x9 w/ Fork
What I have:
Hope Tech X2 Brakes (~350 grams)
Middleburn crankset w/ 32 Ring (~556 grams)
Crank Brothers Ti. Bottom Bracket (Isis) (180 grams)
XT Casette 11-34 (I realize I can cut A LOT of weight here, but I'm not rich...) (261 grams)
KCNC Skewers (44 grams)
KMC X9 SL Chain (~270 grams ?)
SRAM X0 Carbon Med. Cage (197 grams)
DT Swiss 240 Hubs (6 bolt)

Still to buy:
Grips (foam or silicone?)
Thinking King headset (for reliability)
Fox 29er Fork (think its 1690 grams)
Sapim XRay Spokes & nipples
Stans Crest 29er rims (370g a rim) w/ yellow tape & valves (Wheelset as is ~1450 grams)
Kent Eriksen Ti Seatpost (~160 grams & beautiful)
Woodman seatcollar (~11 grams)
Syntace Duraflite 31.8 Handlebars (~160 grams)
Syntace F109 Stem (121 grams for a 110mm)
2 Ti Eggbeaters (again, not rich enough for 4 Ti)
WTB Ti Devo SLT (comfort over weight-195 grams)
Cables for R.Der-? Thinking Gore Ride-On???
Crossmark on back & Ignitor up front (because they work :)
Water bottle cages ???

With the frame this build is currently ~20Lbs...So let me have it- What can I swap out to preserve reliability & bomberness but save some grams without having to rob a bank?
Happy New Year!!!
 

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I am not a WW expert... but here is my opinion anyway.

What is the frame btw?

- I really like the ESI grips, reasonably light, cheap and I really like them. And they have many colors to complement your build.
- Why the 31.8 Handlebars? (but I like Syntace stuff)
- You might check the guy selling TI CB pedal spindles if you want to make your pedals 4TI weight.
- You did not list the shifter, I like the SRAM twisty, cheap, light and performs well
- I like the Schwalbe Racing Ralph tires for 29er, but you appear decided on your tires.

Good luck!
 

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Happy New Year. Here's some suggestions -

Ritchey WCS foam or ESI grips.
Cane Creek 110 headset.
Race Face Next SL bars should be lighter but I'm not sure.
Paul's Thumbie shifter?
I'm guessing a Lefty or rigid fork is out of the question?
Syntace F99 stem?
Cateye make a light cheap bottle cage but it's kinda ugly.
http://www.cateye.com/en/product_detail/274
 

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JustRide44
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Frame is Wily Custom (~3.2 Lbs)
31.8 Bars because no good reason...I know I could save the weight on bar & stem (while sticking with Syntace so that is a good suggestion)
I will be getting those Ti Spindles on e-bay (subtract ~55g)
My shifter is X0 Twisty
I had the racing Ralph's on my circus-wheel bike last season & they wouldn't stay inflated- Stans & air kept coming out the sidewalls. I understand that snakeskin should fix it so maybe I'll give them another whirl.
Thanks!!
 

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I remember why 31.8 on the Cockpit- Syntace 25.4 bar is only 580 mm & I need at least 630...
I love grip shift & it cant be much more than a thumbie setup?
10-4 on the grips :)
 

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rooster44 said:
Still to buy:
Grips (foam or silicone?) ESI Racer's Edge
Thinking King headset (for reliability) Yes.
Fox 29er Fork (think its 1690 grams) Not the lightest, but a great fork
Sapim XRay Spokes & nipples
Stans Crest 29er rims (370g a rim) w/ yellow tape & valves (Wheelset as is ~1450 grams) Sounds like a really nice light 29er wheelset
Kent Eriksen Ti Seatpost (~160 grams & beautiful)
Woodman seatcollar (~11 grams)
Syntace Duraflite 31.8 Handlebars (~160 grams)
Syntace F109 Stem (121 grams for a 110mm)
2 Ti Eggbeaters (again, not rich enough for 4 Ti) $60 more gets you Wade's Ti spindles (link)
WTB Ti Devo SLT (comfort over weight-195 grams)
Cables for R.Der-? Thinking Gore Ride-On???
Crossmark on back & Ignitor up front (because they work :)
Water bottle cages ??? King Titanium. They are light at 26g, not the lightest, but it will be the last time you loose a bottle. Problem is the price.
You are on the right track with your current parts, my suggestions are in red. I didnt see shifters, go with the X.0 Twisters.
 

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Yea- I've heard great things about those cages. They are indeed steep though... Does anyone have any experience with any other light reliable cages?
 

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Yes to all your things to buy still. But some additional considerations.

-Make sure you get 2010 Fox as the 2010 uses a lighter dampener setup
-Chris King... How can you go wrong with Chris King? If you are looking to reduce weight get the CrankBrothers Cobalt SL headset
-Kent Eriksen Ti seatpost is going to be major $$$$. Why not take some of the cost of that that seatpost (get a Thomson Masterpiece or EC90 400mm) into a lighter saddle?
-I'm sure you can find a comfy saddle that is 140g is less
-Cables = Shimano SP41. Or Yumeya SP81 if you can find it
-Water bottle cages = King Titanium. Best there is.
 

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Indeed on the 2010 Fox (I'm not going to have any problems with the thru-axle & my 240's am I?)
I know those Crank Brothers headsets are light but I've seen some poor reviews...
The Ti Eriksen is ~$200 & I've just always wanted one...Heard it has really good ride quality too.
Saddles are tricky because WTB is the only brand that I have tried & fits my butt bones :(

Thanks for the insight!!
 

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BHolwell- I've not seen those tires but they look like they would be a good replacement for the Crossmark to save weight...Have you tried them? I wonder why Maxxis doesn't do the Ignitor 29er in a 120 tpi...
 

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BHolwell- I've not seen those tires but they look like they would be a good replacement for the Crossmark to save weight...Have you tried them? I wonder why Maxxis doesn't do the Ignitor 29er in a 120 tpi...
I been running the Aspen about 90% of the time on the rear for the past year. Very fast tire- climbing traction is better than you'd think.

It's funny you ask about the Ignitor in a 120 tpi- I recently ordered a limited run of 120 tpi Ignitors for a certain team that will be on our tires next year. Anyways, too many SKU's right now, but we've got some very cool stuff in the pipeline.
 

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Awesome! How do the aspens do in loose stuff? I live in Boise & it's a lot of crushed up granite (acts like sand but large crystals...) The crossmark did awesome running "wrong" direction....Think it was those grabbers on the intermediate layer of side knobs- Does that make sense?
 

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Awesome! How do the aspens do in loose stuff? I live in Boise & it's a lot of crushed up granite (acts like sand but large crystals...) The crossmark did awesome running "wrong" direction....Think it was those grabbers on the intermediate layer of side knobs- Does that make sense?
Yes, perfect sense. The Aspens may not perform as well in the loose stuff due to the low tread height. The center tread height on the Aspen is 2.5mm, while the CrossMark's is 4mm, I think. But I've never ridden near Boise, so I can't say for certain.
 

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Indeed on the 2010 Fox (I'm not going to have any problems with the thru-axle & my 240's am I?)
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The regular 240's will not convert over to 15mm qr. You have to get the 240 oversize. Look on DT's site, go to the hub conversion kit area and you'll see the options on all the diff hubs. The 240 oversize come as a 20mm X 110mm i think but you can buy end caps for standard qr, 9mm qr and 15mm fox style qr.
 

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261 grams for a Shimano XT M770 11-34 cassette? Is that an actual weight, or something else. 261 grams would be about right for the 11-32 cassette, but I think the 11-34 cassette is about a tenth of a pound more (about 300 grams).
 

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Good looking build:D

Some thoughts on how the thread is progressing

If you would like to stiffen things up without having proprietary wheels or fork, then I think the DT Swiss RWS thru axle skewers are the way to go. They weigh 118g for the pair, but each hub is slightly reduced in weight due to the different endcaps.

Seatpost - if you decide to forgo your Ti preference, get a carbon due to the similar/better damping properties. Thomsons are nice, but as stiff as a honeymooner's, especially on a hardtail.

Tyres - I've ridden recently in sandstone, which had loose rock, loose over hard, babyheads, sand (as you'd expect) etc. The best tyres I found for this were 2.25 Nobby Nic. A good combo is NN front and RR rear.
 
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