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No need to get butthurt because I disagree with you on a couple things.
Man, must be the change in weather or something.
I'm old. My butt is sensitive.
But my brighter light helps a little.....and little is subjective ;^)

Seriously....the Duo and it's clones are frikkin amazing for their brightness and their tiny size. When I saw the first one last year...I laughed until the lady turned it on.

I am flip flopping on the Duo clone and a SSx2 to replace my Hi-Max XML U2 helmet light.

But with the buzz about the possible Xm_l2 U2...or better...

I still have my Vista Lite dual 10w set up from 1991....like 2 birthday candles on your bars. They were awesome back then

Then I got the Nite Sun Team Issue ( which I still have )....

I guess we have real 1st world problems arguing over bike lights, right?
 

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Vista Lites..I had the 2x10w and 1 wt circa '95. I remember the older ones like you are talking about. The new cheap LEDs are amazing compared to those old lights.

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LOL...bubs you really dug that one up now didn't you. That thread is from back in 2008. All the links are outdated and dead. When you can buy a twin XM-L lamp head for about $26 all the conversions make no sense anymore.
5 secs using a search engine. It can be cheaper than $26, how much is two mr16 triple cree bulbs? $5 each? Pretty sure they're dirt cheap on ebay.

Yeah, I rather get an xml dual ssx2 lighthead from lightmall for $22 instead.
 

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5 secs using a search engine. It can be cheaper than $26, how much is two mr16 triple cree bulbs? $5 each? Pretty sure they're dirt cheap on ebay.

Yeah, I rather get an xml dual ssx2 lighthead from lightmall for $22 instead.
He, he...I hear ya. When you factor in the problem of doing the DIY conversion, finding a compatible battery and having no mode changes the $22-$27 lamp head is a real no-brainer. Back then when the cheap P-7 torches came along almost no one talked about conversions anymore.
 

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Finnaly, I`ve got it!
It is indeed very small and light...compared to MJ808 P7 and MJ872

It is right between MJ808 P7 and MJ872. That goes for beam pattern and amount of light-
I would say around 1000-1100lm
I am very impressed with the build quality but disappointed with charger. It cuts off at 8,2V. That is waaay to early.
I will post trail beamshots in a week (including MJ808, MJ808e, MJ880, MJ872, MJ880 clone, 3xXML clone, SS2X, Lupine Tesla)
 

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Wow...I had no idea how small these actually are! Yes..looking forward to beam shots. I really want either a genuine Duo or one of these clones..look so cool.
 

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Here are some quick shots
Nice comparison! Very well done. A couple of questions for you. Which MJ880 clone do you have, the one from KD? Do you have the genuine MJ872 or the $30 clone? I always like the ability of the MJ872 clone to evenly light the near field. Is it the xml solarstorm or the xm-l2?

The dual emitter lights are clearly superior to the single emitter lights. It looks like the Yinding (Duo clone) has the best throw, but that could just be a function of how it's aimed (slightly higher?). They are all pretty similar really, but the Solarstorm has the brightest hot spot. It's tough to pick a favorite. I would probably go with the MJ880 clone or the Duo clone, because of the even beam in both near- and far-field.

I'm really impressed with the Duo clone. How are they pumping out this much light in such a small housing without overheating the light? Does it get hot, or is it a superior design?

The 872 is good if you want a really bright near-field, maybe for tricky root or rock sections. It obviously has bad throw. The three dual-emitter lights are probably a better buy for most people.

Based on the picture Modig posted, the triple xml is also a good bet. It's has a proven track record, and it appears to be somewhat brighter then the three major dual emitter lights (880 clone, Solarstorm X2, Gemini Duo clone). The triple can be had for pretty cheap now, I'm sure. There's also the option of buying these lights as light-heads-only. That's especially good if you already have decent battery from action led or xeccon. The Solarstorm and the KD 880 clone are both available that way.

It seems that we have reached a new standard for cheap lights and a new era of night riding. It's probably enough for most riders to ride at their day time speeds without too much worry. The doubles are definitely in and singles are out. These new lights really open up the world of night riding for everyone.

In my opinion, the better the cheap lights get, the harder it is to justify the $200 minimum for the "good" lights. I feel sorry for the guys who only buy their lights at the bike store. $100 buys you a 400 lumen light that last 1.5 hours. $100 sent to China buys you two complete sets of lights that are two to three times as bright and last for twice as long! If you read the bike magazine this entire segment of lights, i.e. Chinese imports, is virtually ignored. If it wasn't for this forum, I would have never known this stuff was out there. Thanks guys.

Happy night riding everyone!
 

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Do you have the genuine MJ872 or the $30 clone?
It is original Magicshine.

Is it the xml solarstorm or the xm-l2?
XML u2 from aliexpress, the first one that was selling for $33.

It looks like the Yinding (Duo clone) has the best throw, but that could just be a function of how it's aimed (slightly higher?).
SSX2 and MJ880 clone have noticeable better throw. They are also brighter. It doesn't have such spot it is floodier so it is hard to aim them the same.

bhocewar, is there a chance the MJ872 was aimed a little lower then the others?
No, it is veeery floody. It doesn't have any throw.
 
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