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Hey Gang-

It's finally here--the GDR starts on Friday. Dunno yet the exact number of folks that are planning to start, but it seems a lock that we'll have over double the competitors of any previous year.

You can get some idea of what the GDR is about here.

You can read the racers' daily updates here.

And you can find the daily podcasts here.

You can also plow through all of the pre-race scuttlebutt and hullabaloo if you're so inclined.

The blog page will be for racer updates only. Please use this thread to discuss, speculate, encourage and heckle as they roll along the spine of the continent.

Cheers,

MC
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Below is a roster of who’s left. Everyone appears to have made the 13-day cut-off at Steamboat!

Ashley Mckenzie
Jon Hurly
Josh Ficke
Steve Wilkinson
Bruce Dinsmore
Matthew Lee
Matt McFee
Jay Petervary
Matt Kemp
Nathan Bay
Jeff Kerby
Alex Field
Jon Billman
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"The Great Divide Race
Friday, June 20, 2008
Race Start: High Noon
Port of Roosville, Montana"

Mike, I vote for changing it to Friday the 13th :thumbsup:
Rich007 said:
New updates are up at http://greatdividerace.blogspot.com/

Rick is calling it quit, seems like a knee injury. Hope you get well fast, you put a great effort. Congrats. JP was in Grants at noon today. If I got my basic math right he's ahead by little over 20 hours on the current record. Keep it going man, not much left...
Latest call-in from Jay P. is posted and he "sounds" mighty chipper in this update from Tom P., just a bit of a rebound from the last couple of call-ins. He has the attitude of someone who has this thing sewn up and is ready to roll it to the finish without much difficulty.

http://greatdividerace.blogspot.com/

I think Matt L. saw the tread marks on the trail yesterday and gave Jay the nod providing no serious problems arose. But still, only 300 miles to go for Jay and it ain't over until the fat tire sings.

Too bad about Rick.

And to the rest of the gang out there, keep on rollin'!!

Ed
Yeah, listening to it he doesn't sound quite as lively as before but he does sound determined as usual. Maybe it's the pie....filling the stomach...blood rushes in...and he's basking in a sugar-induced buzz....

Or he's just tired...:p
wow, Jay sounds so excited and confident on his pie town update. can't wait to hear the audio on this one. i suspect the next we hear from him it'll be to tell us what time he got to Antelope Wells. if everything goes well it seems like he could possibly finish before the 15 day barrier at noon tomorrow! it sure sounds like he aint planning on letting up at all before the last pedal stroke. 300 miles is still a long way to go and a lot of things could happen out there but it sure is looking like a sweet finish for JayP.
edemtbs said:
Latest call-in from Jay P. is posted and he "sounds" mighty chipper in this update from Tom P., just a bit of a rebound from the last couple of call-ins. He has the attitude of someone who has this thing sewn up and is ready to roll it to the finish without much difficulty.
Yep. It's impressive and shocking (to me) that he seems to be rolling through the whole race without much difficulty.

But did anyone else notice that he was confident he'd make Silver City before dark? I think he might be off his rocker, because he's got ~13 hours of daylight and 175 miles to cover. He may be fast, but he's not that fast.

The last 30 miles into Silver City are a very rude surprise for those not familiar with the route. There are some very steep, 700'-ish rollers in there. It'd be tough to average 10mph on this stretch, fresh and unloaded.

So, it's far from over, but it sure seems like he's going to take a sizeable chunk off the record. Looking forward to Matt's next update too. It'll tell us if he's within striking distance or not. I'm guessing not, but I'm hoping it might turn into a close race.
jav1231 said:
Yeah, listening to it he doesn't sound quite as lively as before but he does sound determined as usual. Maybe it's the pie....filling the stomach...blood rushes in...and he's basking in a sugar-induced buzz....

Or he's just tired...:p
first of all, thanks so much for your work on the pod casts. it's so fun to listen to those every night.

interesting to hear you say that JayP sounds not so lively on this one because reading the text gave the impression that he was riding high and ready to fly.

perhaps he's just not much of a morning person. his 6:00 am call in the other day he sounded like it was a struggle just to talk and then yesterday afternoon he sounded like his usual excited self again.
Krein said:
So, it's far from over, but it sure seems like he's going to take a sizeable chunk off the record. Looking forward to Matt's next update too. It'll tell us if he's within striking distance or not. I'm guessing not, but I'm hoping it might turn into a close race.
Good points Scott.

"Is he going to crack or continue dancing on those pedals?" in Phil L. parlance.

300 miles is 300 miles!! As MC and some of my friends pointed out earlier, and it's something I've been thinking about all along, Matt knows this route like almost no one else and he's pacing himself.

Jay is swinging hard at some unknowns and that can hurt not only physically but mentally when things get tougher than expected or planned.

I'm rooting for Jay because I'm as amazed as everyone at his sizzling pace, but a photo finish would be really cool :thumbsup:

Best of luck to both of them.

Ed
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Krein said:
The last 30 miles into Silver City are a very rude surprise for those not familiar with the route. There are some very steep, 700'-ish rollers in there. It'd be tough to average 10mph on this stretch, fresh and unloaded.
True indeed - our little NMORS XC Series has a race around the Signal Peak area - and the few miles the race hits the CDT are rough! That short, small piece of trail just in the race is an ass-whooper, and as you said - unloaded and fresh this portion of the GDR is cruel indeed. Craggy, loose, rocky, and steep at times. I'd worry about 'losing it' here and injuring myself after what? 2200 miles thus far?

Freakin "A" BadAss ya'll...
I'm heading out to Silver City tomorrow for some riding and camping. Hopefully we'll get a glimpse of J.P. or Matt as they roll through, or at least rumors of their passing through. Does the CDT hit part of the Tadpole Loop on the Signal Peak course? How about Little Walnut? We'll be up at Pinos Altos camping, but gonna keep an eye out!
Ideas for Future GDR Coverage

There was a bit of discussion on real-time coverage of future GDRs on the forum and during the pre-race meeting. While I was sitting at home with my Achilles, I started to think a little more about what could be done and the results are below.

Technically the biggest issues is the lack of cell phone coverage along the route. This leaves us essentially with two options:
o use satellite technology for location updates - expensive and probably no multimedia data support
o cell phone technology (CDMA/Edge or GPRS) - less expensive, support for voice, pictures and video, spotty coverage

Let me know what you think. Specifically if you feel that this is in the spirit of the race.

If there's consensus that this is an interesting approach, I would pitch this my employer for developing and hosting the service as well as for getting the devices (probably finding a co-sponsor a carrier, e.g. Verizon, ATT, ..., or device manufacturer Motorola, ...).

Check it out at:

http://home.pacbell.net/hillmann/GreatDivide/GdrCoverage.html

Cheers,

Andreas
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glenzx said:
True indeed - our little NMORS XC Series has a race around the Signal Peak area - and the few miles the race hits the CDT are rough! That short, small piece of trail just in the race is an ass-whooper, and as you said - unloaded and fresh this portion of the GDR is cruel indeed. Craggy, loose, rocky, and steep at times. I'd worry about 'losing it' here and injuring myself after what? 2200 miles thus far?

Freakin "A" BadAss ya'll...
Ah, no. The CDT and GDMBR are completely different routes. Coming into Silver City the GDMBR (race route) is just the Geronimo Trail (a 2wd road), between the Aldo Leopold and Gila Wilderness areas. After that (in Mimbres) it's a mix of pavement and relatively benign dirt road into Silver City.

There's not one bit of actual singletrack on the route. There are some short singletrack-ish sections (old roads, atv trails) but it's pretty much a dirt road route.

I don't know if you've ridden the Geronimo Trail, but even though it's a dirt road, it packs a solid punch. Especially when you are used to clicking the miles off on the flats between Cuba and Pie Town.
CyclingCa said:
There was a bit of discussion on real-time coverage of future GDRs on the forum and during the pre-race meeting. While I was sitting at home with my Achilles, I started to think a little more about what could be done and the results are below.

Technically the biggest issues is the lack of cell phone coverage along the route. This leaves us essentially with two options:
o use satellite technology for location updates - expensive and probably no multimedia data support
o cell phone technology (CDMA/Edge or GPRS) - less expensive, support for voice, pictures and video, spotty coverage

Let me know what you think. Specifically if you feel that this is in the spirit of the race.

If there's consensus that this is an interesting approach, I would pitch this my employer for developing and hosting the service as well as for getting the devices (probably finding a co-sponsor a carrier, e.g. Verizon, ATT, ..., or device manufacturer Motorola, ...).

Check it out at:

http://home.pacbell.net/hillmann/GreatDivide/GdrCoverage.html

Cheers,

Andreas
HumanEdgeTech rents and sells a pretty slick comm package used by many light and fast climbing/adventure expeditions the world over. May be worth a look.

http://www.humanedgetech.com/news.php?id=1573
I love Andreas' idea for covering the race next year, especially if it could use satellite technology instead of cell phones, but it seems like the battery issue is the killer. Asking racers to carry solar panels might be going too far. Of course, some of the new flexible panels are pretty sweet and could be incorporated into a backpack or rack bag pretty easily...

I guess the question boils down to how much technology can be imposed on the racers for the sake of the viewing public. And, really, this race is for the riders, not for the rest of us, no matter how much fun it is to follow.

A web layout like the one Andreas' mocked-up would be incredibly cool for the rest of us, but it would have to be simple, light, and no hassle (or aid) to the riders. Maybe something could be tested by volunteers in '08?
grroes said:
first of all, thanks so much for your work on the pod casts. it's so fun to listen to those every night.

interesting to hear you say that JayP sounds not so lively on this one because reading the text gave the impression that he was riding high and ready to fly.

perhaps he's just not much of a morning person. his 6:00 am call in the other day he sounded like it was a struggle just to talk and then yesterday afternoon he sounded like his usual excited self again.
Thanks. Glad you're getting into the podcasts.

I didn't mean to imply he sounded down-trodden. He sounded a little tired but no where NEAR as worn out as I probably would. He just wasn't as overt as before. Pure speculation as to whether it was just tired from a days ride or the overall trip getting to him. My guess is he'll call in fired up again. I suspect that's his nature.
sizlinseagulsoup said:
"The Great Divide Race
Friday, June 20, 2008
Race Start: High Noon
Port of Roosville, Montana"

Mike, I vote for changing it to Friday the 13th :thumbsup:
Sure thing. First few days might look a bit like this, though:


MC
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mikesee said:
Sure thing. First few days might look a bit like this, though:


MC
I'm sure I'll have the orange gloves next year too :D

I'll just make sure to not ride infront of any black cats while pedaling under a ladder :madman:
Film crew doing a documentary (yeah I know they couldnt get visas this year),

One of the professor/racers is thinking of doing a writeup for Outside magazine,

Satellite tracking racers...

Maybe I view this race/experience differently than others, but I think there is a slippery slope we are approaching.
21st century boy

The_Boy said:
Film crew doing a documentary (yeah I know they couldnt get visas this year),

One of the professor/racers is thinking of doing a writeup for Outside magazine,

Satellite tracking racers...

Maybe I view this race/experience differently than others, but I think there is a slippery slope we are approaching.
So what difference is someone with a camera going to make, and or satellite tracking.

Slippery slope, it sure isn't going to make those miles shorter or those hills less steep ?
Krein said:
Ah, no. The CDT and GDMBR are completely different routes. Coming into Silver City the GDMBR (race route) is just the Geronimo Trail (a 2wd road), between the Aldo Leopold and Gila Wilderness areas. After that (in Mimbres) it's a mix of pavement and relatively benign dirt road into Silver City.

There's not one bit of actual singletrack on the route. There are some short singletrack-ish sections (old roads, atv trails) but it's pretty much a dirt road route.

I don't know if you've ridden the Geronimo Trail, but even though it's a dirt road, it packs a solid punch. Especially when you are used to clicking the miles off on the flats between Cuba and Pie Town.
Ah. Now I know! Guess I assumed the divide race followed as much of the CDT as possible - but I see to hit the areas I've ridden would make for a hell of a circuitous route! Not what one would want after 2+/- weeks of abuse... I've not ridden the routes you noted - but know the sort of terrain it's likely to be composed of / goes over.

Thanks for the clarification though!

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