[Wilhelm6]

According to a recently posted e-mail from NICOLAI resp. UNIVERSAL TRANSMISSIONS in the NICOLAI manufacturer´s forum at the German IBC (www.mtb-news.de) the G-Boxx 2 as well as the Ion G-Boxx 2 unfortunately were discontinued so far. May be that they will continue the works on the G-Boxx 3 but neither informations about technical details nor a schedule for presentation. At Eurobike 2010 they will come out with an all-new "Nucleon E2" which should combine the G-Boxx 1 (!) with the geometry of the "Ion".

 

[Wilhelm6]

In addition, the G-Boxx trigger shifter project is on hold, too.

 

[dipper]

Boooo!

 

[Wilhelm6]

:???:

 

[dipper]

Boooo! as in 'thats bad news, hope they keep developing the G-Boxx':thumbsup:

 

[No Skid Marks]

Damn it, I only just realised they made the Ion/G-Boxx2. This would have to be the best bike they've made, and now discontinued. Am I wrong in my beliefs on whjat makes a good bike? Is it justthe weight that killed it?

 

[cyril_88]

According to my information, Nicolaï continue to produce ion gb2 and produce a new one with a gb1, more like an nucleon AM, but on a ION ST frame

we have to wait the eurobike

 

[No Skid Marks]

I hope it has sub 17" chainstays.

 

[Whafe]

Have had some usual emails with Karl, he has been really quiet, he told me the following:

At this moment I am deep in an R+D project

So here is hoping that something new will be here for Eurobike..... I must confess I asked Karl re building me a ION GBoxx 2 29er DH frame.... Karl said, just cant do it at present, so my mind is in overdrive, well was some months ago when was in discussion on a 29er DH frame... But now would have to say that have moved thought process, just not enough lift assist terrain here in NZ to warrant a DH bike..... Anyway, it is good to dream....

 

[Wilhelm6]

Have had some usual emails with Karl, he has been really quiet, he told me the following:

At this moment I am deep in an R+D project Indeed, a big electro bike project!

So here is hoping that something new will be here for Eurobike The "Nucleon E2" with G-Boxx 1 and a geometry like the "Ion", as a real successor of the retired "Nucleon Evo"..... I must confess I asked Karl re building me a ION GBoxx 2 29er DH frame Please tell us more, maybe a sketch? .... Karl said, just cant do it at present, so my mind is in overdrive, well was some months ago when was in discussion on a 29er DH frame... But now would have to say that have moved thought process, just not enough lift assist terrain here in NZ to warrant a DH bike..... Anyway, it is good to dream....

I believe that today´s G-Boxx conception of Karl is bearing much potential for electric bikes. So, given the additional weight burden of the electric equipment for a MTB, the G-Boxx 1 seems to have no longer such a dramatic weight penalty (relatively) at all. Furthermore, I believe that Karl´s gearbox conception gives him the chance to be the first who comes out with a geared up electric bike that will perform like a super light weight MX machine, particularly with a deep and central CG and a lightwight rear suspension (all that advantages of a gearbox bike), in contrast to all the e-bike stuff with wheel hub e-motors (two ecxeptions, so far I know: The GRUBER electric assist (Wörgl/Austria), but it comes without any gearbox within the frame, and the PG Bikes (Regensburg/Germany) electric concept bike "Blacktrail").

GRUBER

PG Bikes "Blacktrail"

 

[Wilhelm6]

Again GRUBER assist:

Again PG Bikes:
The drive train resp. power system is made by CLEAN Mobile and seems to use a FALLBROOK NuVinci CVT:

 

[jez_9540]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :madman:

I own a diamondback sabbath with gboxx2 and now I hear that they are discontinuing the gboxx2 .

Its probably for the best, and I just hope the next one will be compatible with my frame mounts. Just got it back from repair (after a few months in the alps, so wear/damage was understandable), but had it back less than a week and it has failed on me, so its going back again and I wont be able to ride for another month . Was such a good concept and I love it while it works, but now its beginning to look unreliable. We'll see what the Gboxx 3 brings (apparently they're getting the trigger shift sorted for that!

 

[Wilhelm6]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :madman:

I own a diamondback sabbath with gboxx2 and now I hear that they are discontinuing the gboxx2 .

Its probably for the best, and I just hope the next one will be compatible with my frame mounts. Just got it back from repair (after a few months in the alps, so wear/damage was understandable), but had it back less than a week and it has failed on me, so its going back again and I wont be able to ride for another month . Was such a good concept and I love it while it works, but now its beginning to look unreliable. We'll see what the Gboxx 3 brings (apparently they're getting the trigger shift sorted for that!

Don´t give up, man!

According to Karl´s statement from August 7th 2010 they of course will continue full service for all G-Boxx 2 customers. Furthermore, the G-Boxx 3 would be compatible to the G-Con standard mounts and thus it will be retrofittable.

"Hallo Leute ...

b) Die G-BOXX-2 wird nicht weiter entwickelt und vererbt bestimmte Gene an den Nachfolger . Es wird einen Technologiesprung zur G-BOXX-3 geben . Die Serieneinführung der G-BOXX-3 wird jedoch noch auf sich warten lassen und wahrscheinlich im Frühsommer 2011 in die Testphase gehen. Wann die Serienfähigkeit erreicht ist, wird sich zeigen. Angepeilt ist die eurobike 2011. Die G-Boxx-3 wird durch uns auch in heutige Bikes mit dem Befestigungsstandard G-CON eingebaut werden können um nachrüstwillige Kunden nicht vor den Kopf zu stossen. Die Ersatzteilverfügbarkeit und der Service für die G-BOXX-2 ist (logischerweise) sichergestellt. ...

Viele Grüße

Euer Kalle Nicolai"
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