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FYI: Hadley, DTSwiss XR 4.1D wheel build weights

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MTB_TDI

Discussion Starter · Dec 13, 2005

I haven't seen any weights of Hadleys with the thru axels. The rest of my build is fairly straight forward and you can look up the weights on them. but here is my build.

Front Hub: Hadley 9mm thru axel
Front rim: DTSwiss XR 4.1D
Spokes: DTSwiss competion spokes 2.0/1.8
alloy nipples
Weight: 855g with axel and 822 w/o axel

Rear Hub: Hadley 10mm thru axel
rearrim: DTSwiss XR 4.1D
Spokes: DTSwiss competion spokes 2.0/1.8
alloy nipples
Weight: 1044g with axel and 994 w/o axel

I weighed these before I put on the velox rim tape. Total weight with axels was 1899.

Krispy at Go-ride.com liked the build.

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Jdub

· #2 · Dec 13, 2005

MTB_TDI said:
I haven't seen any weights of Hadleys with the thru axels. The rest of my build is fairly straight forward and you can look up the weights on them. but here is my build.

Front Hub: Hadley 9mm thru axel
Front rim: DTSwiss XR 4.1D
Spokes: DTSwiss competion spokes 2.0/1.8
alloy nipples
Weight: 855g with axel and 822 w/o axel

Rear Hub: Hadley 10mm thru axel
rearrim: DTSwiss XR 4.1D
Spokes: DTSwiss competion spokes 2.0/1.8
alloy nipples
Weight: 1044g with axel and 994 w/o axel

I weighed these before I put on the velox rim tape. Total weight with axels was 1899.

Krispy at Go-ride.com liked the build.

Interesting....

I'm going with a similar, but slightly different wheel build and I'll post up some weights when I get it built up.

Hadley 20mm front disc with DT5.1
Hadley disc rear with DT5.1

Spokes and nipples will be whatever Larry deems necessary.

shiggy

· #3 · Dec 13, 2005

9mm through axle?

MTB_TDI

Discussion Starter · #4 · Dec 13, 2005

shiggy said:
9mm through axle?

Yes, a 9mm through axel. You can see the option here

http://go-ride.com/prod_hubs.html#Anchor-HADLEY-33993.

You can convert your old QR front hub to a through axel with this part

http://www.balleracing.com/Hadley/HadleyF9mmConvKit.htm

indyfab25

· #5 · Dec 21, 2005

That is the exact wheelset I am going with but a 36 spoke rear. I was very curious about the weight of these wheels. I have the thru axle rear with a rhino light xl and it is every bit as stiff as the deemax I was borrowing for a bit. It really stiffened up the rear end of my Heckler. That sold me on the thruaxle. If the front has the stiffening effect that the rear axle has...I am in for a treat!

indyfab25

· #6 · Dec 21, 2005

Whoa...I thought alloy nipples were not a good idea for discs?

Homebrew

· #7 · Dec 22, 2005

Just curious...

Why the beefy hubs and skinny XC rims?

MTB_TDI

Discussion Starter · #8 · Dec 22, 2005

Homebrew said:
Why the beefy hubs and skinny XC rims?

My Switchblade can't run too big of a tire on the back. I figure the rims are just replacable and the hubs with the thru axel were about $10-15 more than the QR versions. Most wheelbuilders approved of my build before I bought them and I explained the type of terrain I ride. My old wheelset whent when the rear rim died and the rear hub's engagement was going to go soon. I had already replaced the bearings in it and they were still rough. I replaced the carrier on it too. It still sucked, so I went with a good sturdy hub. I was looking at going with the Mavic 819 disc but decided on these. I may be proved wrong on this but I can always change the rims, it is a little harder to change the hubs.

indyfab25

· #9 · Dec 22, 2005

It is a great compromise between superb rigidity and low rotating weight. The hadleys are still pretty light(not the lightest) but compared to the xt's, they are much stiffer and much lighter. I think this is a great agressive xc set up. The thru axle really stiffened up the rear end. I would imagine they will do the same for the fork. For the weight penalty and slight inconvienience, it is worth it.

MK_

· #10 · Dec 22, 2005

If your avatar is a good depiction of your riding style, I'll be praying for those rims

The hubs are definatelly solid.

_MK

MTB_TDI

Discussion Starter · #11 · Dec 22, 2005 (Edited)

MK_ said:
If your avatar is a good depiction of your riding style, I'll be praying for those rims The hubs are definatelly solid.

_MK

That is me. It is certainly not the norm, but I do that once in a great while. The old wheels held up okay for a few years while doing that. I actually have a friend that works for Reynolds Composites that is developing some carbon fiber rims. I rode them for a few months and absolutely LOVED them. They held a line like no other wheel I had ever riden. They are a deep V design so they were very stiff. I am hoping that they will finish their desing in a couple years and I can get some of those rims.

The reason for the Hadleys was that they aren't too heavy but virtually bomb proof. The through axels came about because they stiffen up the front a rear and they look cool and different (and if I didn't get them, I would have had to buy some QR skewers anyway). I am also a firm believer of not having to worry about your parts but be reasonably light. I have never wanted the lightest because that usually means that the product is not as strong. Besides, they were on the carbon rims that I rode and I really liked them. Reynolds is working on their own hubs, but I am sure I would rather have the Hadleys and just get the rims from them.

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Homebrew

· #12 · Dec 22, 2005

MTB_TDI said:
My Switchblade can't run too big of a tire on the back. I figure the rims are just replacable and the hubs with the thru axel were about $10-15 more than the QR versions. Most wheelbuilders approved of my build before I bought them and I explained the type of terrain I ride. My old wheelset whent when the rear rim died and the rear hub's engagement was going to go soon. I had already replaced the bearings in it and they were still rough. I replaced the carrier on it too. It still sucked, so I went with a good sturdy hub. I was looking at going with the Mavic 819 disc but decided on these. I may be proved wrong on this but I can always change the rims, it is a little harder to change the hubs.

No worries, the rims are solid. I had them for 2 years without even a ding. With a good build, you'll be fine. Enjoy!

MTB_TDI

Discussion Starter · #13 · Dec 22, 2005

Homebrew said:
No worries, the rims are solid. I had them for 2 years without even a ding. With a good build, you'll be fine. Enjoy!

They should be good. Krispy from Go-Ride built them for me!

shiggy

· #14 · Dec 22, 2005

indyfab25 said:
Whoa...I thought alloy nipples were not a good idea for discs?

Alloy nips work just fine with discs. I have not used anything else in 6 years of running discs.

slowrider

· #15 · Dec 23, 2005

XC's

I built my Hadleys up as a XC QR wheelset with double butted spokes alloy nipples on Bontrager Maveric rims 32 hole. Without a cassett or QR's they weigh 1725g and it's a simple conversion to through axle that shouldn't weigh much different than the QR set. I considered tearing my King freeride wheelset appart and building an ultralight King wheelset which according to what I've seen for King weights would have weighed about 1655g but I decided it wasn't worth the work.

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