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Is there anyway we can get some signs posted on the Frontrange trails telling everyone to pick up their pets dropping. Theres nothing like huffing and puffing up apex and having to breath in that horse crap smell deep into your lungs. And while I'm at it, some people need to grow a pair and ride UP the water bars and not around them.:madmax: :End of rant:

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Uh...I'm confused...

...you actually rode UP Apex? Isn't that illegal? I thought it was only for shuttles only?

:p

In my experience, signs do nothing, at least as far as some horse people (and some bikers and hikers for that matter) are concerned. Case in point: there's a sign at the Indian Creek trailhead that basically says "you must pick up after your horse," yet we spent the first 3 miles riding thru an equine minefield last summer.

Somebody needs to invent a horse diaper. Then they need to have Open Space make it mandatory that all horses on public trails wear one. You know, like the state making auto insurance mandatory. First you create a reason for folks to give you money, then you legislate to force everybody into giving you money. ;) You could make millions with the horse diapers, and OS could make thousands with the fines and no more horse crap on the trails. Everybody wins!

Sorry, I'm in a weird mood today. :skep:
 

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Nice, isn't it? I was up there tuesday and got blindsided by a big fat pile. Yum.

Horses don't tend to be a 'multi-use' kind of activity IMO. If you don't fall off the trail to get out of their way, the riders will comment or give you a dirty look. They're like 1,000 lb schitzophrenic retards, but if they spook its OUR fault.
 

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Most times I see horses the riders are pretty nice - often much nicer than the grumpy old hiker types. Maybe it's because I ride with my wife and they don't want to be rude to a girl????

Anyway I think it's only common sense that horses be made to carry one of those sh!t bags under their tail on heavily trafficked trails. Sucking wind and horse poo are not a good combo. On the other hand when you’re bombing down a trail and you smell some freshies, you know to be on the look out – anyone remember that Police academy movie from the 80’s? You don’t want that to happen…. :D
 

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What's really nasty is coming around a corner and finding a nice fresh pile right in the middle of the trail. There's no time to react, and you have to go through it. Then, you have horse stuff flying up off the front wheel into your face.
 

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Steve71 said:
Most times I see horses the riders are pretty nice - often much nicer than the grumpy old hiker types. Maybe it's because I ride with my wife and they don't want to be rude to a girl????
Yeah, there are mostly nice people which makes it even harder to tell them to pick their sh!t up. And its even worse up in Crested Butte and areas like that. Is there anyway we can bring this up at one of the Jeffco Open Space meetings?

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...you actually rode UP Apex? Isn't that illegal? I thought it was only for shuttles only?

:p

In my experience, signs do nothing, at least as far as some horse people (and some bikers and hikers for that matter) are concerned. Case in point: there's a sign at the Indian Creek trailhead that basically says "you must pick up after your horse," yet we spent the first 3 miles riding thru an equine minefield last summer.

Somebody needs to invent a horse diaper. Then they need to have Open Space make it mandatory that all horses on public trails wear one. You know, like the state making auto insurance mandatory. First you create a reason for folks to give you money, then you legislate to force everybody into giving you money. ;) You could make millions with the horse diapers, and OS could make thousands with the fines and no more horse crap on the trails. Everybody wins!

Sorry, I'm in a weird mood today. :skep:
Hey, how was the ride at Buffalo Creek this past weekend?
 

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deal with it

I'm into horses as well as bikes. It's really out of the realm of experience to have a horse rider stop - get off- pick up the poop - remount - and ride on. Not nearly as easy as just bending over and picking up dog poop. Plus sometimes you're not aware your horse is pooping. I don't mind horse dung at all. Compare it to cow turds or dog crap - go ahead, inspect it. It's mostly incompletely digested grass and hay - fairly innocuous. Now cow and dog stuff - that's really nasty and foul smelling. True sh#$. I don't mind riding through horse leavings, but dog and cow - that's another matter!
 

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Freder said:
I'm into horses as well as bikes. It's really out of the realm of experience to have a horse rider stop - get off- pick up the poop - remount - and ride on. Not nearly as easy as just bending over and picking up dog poop. Plus sometimes you're not aware your horse is pooping. I don't mind horse dung at all. Compare it to cow turds or dog crap - go ahead, inspect it. It's mostly incompletely digested grass and hay - fairly innocuous. Now cow and dog stuff - that's really nasty and foul smelling. True sh#$. I don't mind riding through horse leavings, but dog and cow - that's another matter!
What about thoses bags that you put under the horses tail to catch the poo?
 

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Sure, dog crap is stinkier, but it also weighs less than five pounds. And horse sh!t may be mostly grass, but it still smells bad and isn't a real treat to have splattered on your bike and legs. Let's just be glad the world doesn't operate around what is 'convenient'.:rolleyes:
 

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one time i crashed and broke my clavicle due to horse crap on the trail... :madmax:
 

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I think a more logical approach would be to require Horse riders to carry a card to ride on public trails. You charge a fee for the card and the funds go towards a poop clean up crew. Horse owners typically have money so It should not be to big a deal other than that they have money to fight the legislation it would take to make them pay to poop.

Funny how, "Leave no trace", eludes the horses.
 

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Hey, how was the ride at Buffalo Creek this past weekend?
It's hard to have a bad ride at BC. :D
We did about 18 miles on the CO trail, climbing a solid 4 miles back to the car at the Rolling creek TH. That last climb up from the campgrounds really killed my legs...of course, being stubborn and refusing to use my granny gear may have had something to do with that. Well, that and being grossly out of shape.

I may have another weekend off in about 3 weeks, we'll have to ride Indian Creek, if it ever stops burning. :rolleyes:

Oh, and just to keep it relevant to this thread...we did ride thru some fresh horse stuff on the way back in BC. :prft:
 

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Freder said:
I'm into horses as well as bikes. It's really out of the realm of experience to have a horse rider stop - get off- pick up the poop - remount - and ride on. Not nearly as easy as just bending over and picking up dog poop. Plus sometimes you're not aware your horse is pooping. I don't mind horse dung at all. Compare it to cow turds or dog crap - go ahead, inspect it. It's mostly incompletely digested grass and hay - fairly innocuous. Now cow and dog stuff - that's really nasty and foul smelling. True sh#$. I don't mind riding through horse leavings, but dog and cow - that's another matter!
I don't have an answer for this problem but I have to ask about what is out of the realm of experience. That's just another way of saying that nobody does it. If you want to ride on a multi-use trail, you should be expected to do things that might be outside the realm of experience. My guess is that it wouldn't take much longer having to stop, get off, pick up the poo and remount as it would to be a cyclist that has to stop and wait for a group of horses to mosey on by.

Let's call it like it is. It's inconvenient for you to do it so you don't.
 

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Next time I ride I'm gonna leave a Duece right in the middle of the trail.



The new infestation.

Biker pooo
 

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Awesome......................

LMAO

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Next time I ride I'm gonna leave a Duece right in the middle of the trail.



The new infestation.

Biker pooo
 

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by that logic..............

F,
OK, let me try to explain in a similar, but different way.
If I were to eat a banana, and throw the peel on the trail.
Turn around and say that it's OK, because it is natural, and does not cause the problems that gel or clif bar wrappers do.
Do you think I am practicing responsible 'leave no trace' trail ethics?
The answer is obviously yours to decide, but I know how I would feel about it.

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Freder said:
I'm into horses as well as bikes. It's really out of the realm of experience to have a horse rider stop - get off- pick up the poop - remount - and ride on. Not nearly as easy as just bending over and picking up dog poop. Plus sometimes you're not aware your horse is pooping. I don't mind horse dung at all. Compare it to cow turds or dog crap - go ahead, inspect it. It's mostly incompletely digested grass and hay - fairly innocuous. Now cow and dog stuff - that's really nasty and foul smelling. True sh#$. I don't mind riding through horse leavings, but dog and cow - that's another matter!
 

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Did George Washington pick up horse poo? Did Stonewall Jackson? Did Geronimo? Did John Wayne? They would have thought it was peculiar to see someone stopping to clean up. Fast forward to today. We're so civilized. We've gotten away from the earth and living a basic existence. We can't deal with a little sh!t.
I'd rather ride through horse poo than mud - I think it's easier to clean off.:) I suspect it will be difficult to enforce a "pick up the horse poo" law. Maybe I'm wrong. But things I can't control I don't let upset me. Well, except for stupid drivers.
 

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Freder said:
Did George Washington pick up horse poo? Did Stonewall Jackson? Did Geronimo? Did John Wayne? They would have thought it was peculiar to see someone stopping to clean up. Fast forward to today. We're so civilized. We've gotten away from the earth and living a basic existence. We can't deal with a little sh!t.
That is a little silly. George Washington, Stonewall Jackson, John Wayne etc. didn't ride crowded trails that were being shared with hikers and bikers.

Back then horses were for transportation, not recreation.

Anyway I still don’t know what's wrong with the bag under the tail?
 

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