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Planning on ripping out my 07 Codes (they're ragged, internals are beat) for slight weight saving (66g down on the codes) with same amount of power.

Anyone got advice for The One ? I'm a big lump and i ride a lot of bike park and shuttle runs, so they have to be solid, reliable, and some DH trails I ride are slower so they have to not boil under pressure. OK to run with Goodridge lines ?

Any other vibes ? Is getting hold of pads an issue ?

Thanks in advance for any advice provided.
 

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Have you considered the Hope V2? About as solid and reliable as anyone could ask for, plus they come with two-piece rotors and Goodridge-made hose straight from the factory. Very easy to bleed without any kind 'helpful' kit and also very easy to maintain when required. All small parts are easily available after-market, too. They're also considerably less expensive than the Formulas.
 

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I don't know about Hopes being cheaper here in Canada - usually they are pretty pricey, but the Ones are great, they use goodridge kit 109 and are problem free for me so far and bleeding is simple.
In Canada parts are available through Trident Sports here in BC, so pretty much any shop can get them, and pads are available through ebay pretty easily - usually the cheapest for any brake and you can get 'em in bulk.
 

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That's my other real choice, the vented discs are just sick !!!!

Still way pricy but you usually (?) get what you pay for with technology.
 

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Go with the formulas, my experiance with the V2's was not too good, whilst easier to bleed than the formulas, they gave me no end of troubles with squeel and pads dragging and generally needing something doing after nearly every ride.
The formula the ones on the other hand have been the most powerfull, reliable brakes I've ever owned, I've used them at various resorts in europe, morzine etc.. and even on standard hoses have never had a problem with them boiling up after any of the big downhills, the pads do wear fairly quickly mind but that could be down to me not being the lightest fella and my bike weighing around half a ton.
 

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Go with the formulas, my experiance with the V2's was not too good, whilst easier to bleed than the formulas, they gave me no end of troubles with squeel and pads dragging and generally needing something doing after nearly every ride.
The formula the ones on the other hand have been the most powerfull, reliable brakes I've ever owned, I've used them at various resorts in europe, morzine etc.. and even on standard hoses have never had a problem with them boiling up after any of the big downhills, the pads do wear fairly quickly mind but that could be down to me not being the lightest fella and my bike weighing around half a ton.
Thanks for the feedback. I'm 210 lbs and my bike is currently 44lbs (will be 39 by end of the season) and used for a hella lot of DH and hard riding bike park days.

The One's look crazy sick too. I'm OK with heavy pad wear, though I find I'm braking a lot less than I used to as I'm progresing. Don't need downtime with tech problems though as I'm not too techy and I hate downtime.

Thanks again bro.
 

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I had a quick search before I made my last post and couldn't find the Formulas for less than around £180 including the "hardware" kits. The Moto V2 (not Tech) is easily found at £160 for the complete, non-vented version.

I know people who ride on Formulas and like them a great deal, and I don't think that their performance is ever in doubt. The only reason that I've stayed away from buying them is that I don't like the feel - the levers have this odd flex which I can't ignore; I don't know if it's the build of the lever itself or if there's flex in the caliper. That said, I wouldn't want to put the Hopes forward by knocking the Formulas back. I still prefer my slightly higher-maintenance (discontinued) Moto M6, but the V2 is an absolutely outstanding brake and would certainly be worthy of your consideration.

With the exception of faulty calipers in the very early run of V2s (no line CNCd in the rear fin), any noises and binding must be attributed to improper install and set-up, as would be the case with most brakes.
 

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I think i'm done with Formula brakes now.
My Ones have a great feel and power, but the levers move too far before the brakes engage for me. They are ok when the pads are brand new, but after a short time I have to remove the wheels and pump out the pads, but soon after this, they are the same again.
The breather hole on the inside of the handlebar clamp is not in a great location imo, as i had pitting on my carbon bars which i did not know about, and this came from fluid from this hole.
The pads do wear very quickly, are not very thick to begin with and are expensive.
Probably a great brake for downhill racers who are shaving the ounces and replace the pads after every run.
To top it all off, i returned a faulty One which had a leak in mid November and am still waiting for its return (UK).
 

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Vote for V2. Outstanding. I have the same big complaint about Formula levers as well. They are really bad. Calipers are great, but Formula needs to do something about the levers and not make them so much of an afterthought. They do contribute to feel and appearance.

Pads- V2 pads have lasted a long time, in sandy, wet conditions. Almost completely noise-free with metallics, though in the wet I have some noise that's generally cured with clearing the rotor with dragging or a braking event. The advantages of using the metallic gold pads far outweigh the noise reduction of using the organic pads.
 

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Odd, I'd never noticed excessive flex at the lever body that much - and I've got freakishly giant hands that will put alot of leverage on such things.
Just went and checked out the bike quiver and yes there is some noticeable lever body flex on my K24s with Straitline levers, but I'm not seeing much with the 'Ones' though. Also looked at my Saints with DB levers, they seem to flex as much as the K24s although none are as bad as a pair of Hayes Mags I checked out...
 

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A MAN CALLED HORSE said:
I've never considered lever flex a problem, or even noticed it to be honest (with the One).

The old Hope lever had flex!
You're right, the old, black mini levers did, but they have not been out in almost three years, and substantially more flex exists in the Formula lever. The Hope lever only flexed a bit, while myself and my colleagues saw the Formula mc/clamp levers completely moving by a large amount towards the bars, and I've seen this on bikes, as well as displays. What's current is the 07 and up silver levers have a widened clamp and flex is nearly non-existent, while the Moto lever further widens the clamp. The new Tech lever was completely flex-free.
 

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I'm going to disagree on the lever flex bit, the levers on the Ones/Megas don't have any appreciable amount of flex. You may think you feel flex, and you may be feeling something else, but put a One/Mega lever in a vise and tell me it flexes/deflects with average/above pressure.

OP: the Ones would be a good choice (there are others, of course). I'm 255 and my Megas stop me on a dime consistently. I keep a supply of pads so as to not run out, which is something to consider.
 

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RD,

WHat am I seeing? I SEE these levers flex as well. And how does a vice help? What matters is clamped to a bar. They flex, period. On top of that, the feel, while subjective, isn't that great a departure from Juicy levers (not a surprise considering the lineage). Like I said, the calipers seem great, pads are so so, and the levers are poo on otherwise great equipment. If I get the chance, I'd want to pick up some Formulas and mate Hope levers to see how they feel, and hopefully the fluid displacement is matched, as is the case with many brakes at this point.
 

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You're right, the old, black mini levers did, but they have not been out in almost three years, and substantially more flex exists in the Formula lever. The Hope lever only flexed a bit, while myself and my colleagues saw the Formula mc/clamp levers completely moving by a large amount towards the bars, and I've seen this on bikes, as well as displays. What's current is the 07 and up silver levers have a widened clamp and flex is nearly non-existent, while the Moto lever further widens the clamp. The new Tech lever was completely flex-free.
I have just checked my Ones again and i am just not seeing the flex you are talking about, let alone it being worse than the old Hope lever (although that is incidental).

If i and others who own this brake are not noticing flex, then i have to conclude that it doesn't exist!
 

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I dunno Jerk, I can't agree with you on this one, my One levers are far from poo, I regularly do 3000+ foot descents and I'm over 200lbs - one finger is all I need. I just don't see the flex in the Ones and as mentioned I can put alot of pressure on the levers, and they feel more solid than my old Saints. I do think that the lever blade is far from perfect - too narrow, as soon as straitlines are available I'll be doing a swap.
Often checking stuff out on a showroom floor is different than use in the real world, ISX-6 rear shocks spring to mind, and my Slingshot SS...
 
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