Ive got the sawback in charcoal, and mine has the bb5 on it. But if you have any questions i would call the customer service number on forges website. Ive had to call them before needing info, and they were super helpful. i love my bike too.
That pretty much sums up the forge. It's not really a fair comparison with the 400ht. Look at some of BD's better bikes to compare with it. The one thing that made me eliminate the BD bikes when I bought the forge is that the BD bikes come with road cassettes. If you plan on doing any climbing (which most of us do), you may want the lower gearing of a 32 or 34 tooth cassette. You may not need the lower gearing if you don't plan on riding mtn trails or if you are a strong rider. Also, the forge only comes in two sizes, which eliminates them if you need a larger size.bryan24681 said:... im really looking for a good frame to build off of with some stock parts that can take some good abuse.