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Hey everyone im Bryan, i just discovered this site and its deffinently already been so helpful. I have done BMX for around 8 years and just recently started really getting into the idea of mountain biking especially since my interest in BMX has started to fade. I have been researching what a good 1st bike would be and had it narrowed down to the Motobecane 400ht and the Forge sawback 5xx. So far it seems like the Forge would be a better buy from what ive read, but anyway my main question is has anybody noticed that in the pictures for the Forge the blue one has different brake disks than the charcoal, but in the description it claims to be the same brakes. I was wondering if they are indeed different or no?
 

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Ive got the sawback in charcoal, and mine has the bb5 on it. But if you have any questions i would call the customer service number on forges website. Ive had to call them before needing info, and they were super helpful. i love my bike too.
 

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Well, look at that. You're right. The Charcoal one looks like it has Tektro Brakes. A buddy of mine has them. For entry level, they'll do fine. Even if they are Tekros or BB5's as you progress you'll most likely want to upgrade. So Regardless either one should be fine.

Just my opinion.
 

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BB5's are quite better then the cable actuated Tektro's they have on entry level bikes................
 

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The pic of the blue bike on their website is the original bike - 80mm fork and Hayes mx-2 brakes. I would guess they didn't change the pic. As mentioned, call to confirm.

They have never had tektro brakes. The levers are tektro - not the best, but good for that price point. The deore shifters and separate brake levers are much better than combo shifters that come on many inexpensive bikes.
 

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alright good info guys i appreciate it. ill give them a call just to see what the company says about it to be sure. so do you think that the sawback is the right choice or is there another bike i should consider? im really looking for a good frame to build off of with some stock parts that can take some good abuse.
 

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... im really looking for a good frame to build off of with some stock parts that can take some good abuse.
That pretty much sums up the forge. It's not really a fair comparison with the 400ht. Look at some of BD's better bikes to compare with it. The one thing that made me eliminate the BD bikes when I bought the forge is that the BD bikes come with road cassettes. If you plan on doing any climbing (which most of us do), you may want the lower gearing of a 32 or 34 tooth cassette. You may not need the lower gearing if you don't plan on riding mtn trails or if you are a strong rider. Also, the forge only comes in two sizes, which eliminates them if you need a larger size.

The best value in a bike purchase is finding a recent model used bike that's in good shape. It takes some patience, and some people don't live in areas where you can find one.
 

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yea thats kind of what threw me off, because on the Forge website as well as target they pictured different brakes but described them as being the same. but im pretty set that some time today im gonna go ahead and order it finally, i cant wait any longer. what color do you all personally like better? im having a tough time deciding.
 
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