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bikenut316

Discussion Starter · Jul 16, 2006

Considering parting with my Flux's Fox 100X for a vanilla or Reba. 220lbs with gear and ride XC but don't race. Looking for plush without mush.

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Alpenglow

· #2 · Jul 16, 2006

Get The Reba

The Fox's are too linear. I love my Reba. It is easily tuneable to be Plush yet not blow through it's travel. It is also stiff. If you decide to get a Reba, do not get PoPLoc. Get the Team or Race version without POPLOC.

Also, RockShoxs Recommended Air Pressure Settings Are Wrong. Get a Pump with 0-200 PSI gauge as the 0-300 is not as precise.

See Below for recommended settings.

http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=183213

Get the Reba and enjoy.

I have an 05 and love it. I don't think that they're are any improvements in 06 over 05, so if you can find and 05 Team or Race on closeout--get it. Don't get the SL, as the Floodgate adjustment is internal.

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climr

· #3 · Jul 16, 2006

First, what don't you like about the F100X? My guess is that your are looking for something more plush?

Gotta disagree with Alpinglow about all Fox's being too linear, I found my 06 F100X to be way too progressive (and harsh in general), and I only weigh 165lbs. I just switched to a pushed Talas and it's pretty incredible. I still find it slightly progressive even though it is supposed to be linear, but it seems to be just progessive enough for the riding I do (90% aggressive XC, 10% racing). My buddy has a non pushed talas and it still doesn't seem mushy, but the pushed version is a 100% improvement in coil like feel and small bump sensitivity. Since fox lies about the F100 series' weight but is more truthful for the Talas there is really only a 75 -80 gram difference between the two forks. If the weight of a vanilla doesn't bother you, I bet they are sweet... it just doesn't seem to go with the flux though.

Haven't ridden the reba, though I'd like to try one out. I'd look into one for sure if money is an object. Try to ride before you buy, people prefer different things so you're likely to get answers all over the place.

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bikenut316

Discussion Starter · #4 · Jul 16, 2006

climr said:
First, what don't you like about the F100X? My guess is that your are looking for something more plush?

Gotta disagree with Alpinglow about all Fox's being too linear, I found my 06 F100X to be way too progressive (and harsh in general), and I only weigh 165lbs. I just switched to a pushed Talas and it's pretty incredible. I still find it slightly progressive even though it is supposed to be linear, but it seems to be just progessive enough for the riding I do (90% aggressive XC, 10% racing). My buddy has a non pushed talas and it still doesn't seem mushy, but the pushed version is a 100% improvement in coil like feel and small bump sensitivity. Since fox lies about the F100 series' weight but is more truthful for the Talas there is really only a 75 -80 gram difference between the two forks. If the weight of a vanilla doesn't bother you, I bet they are sweet... it just doesn't seem to go with the flux though.

Haven't ridden the reba, though I'd like to try one out. I'd look into one for sure if money is an object. Try to ride before you buy, people prefer different things so you're likely to get answers all over the place.

I completly agree, my 100X is all around harsh. My main complaint is that the fork rides very high. This is an advantage in some situations but kills me on steep technical climbs. I realize that this is a race fork and suposed to perform the way it does that's why I am looking for an alternative.

climr

· #5 · Jul 16, 2006

bikenut316 said:
I completly agree, my 100X is all around harsh. My main complaint is that the fork rides very high. This is an advantage in some situations but kills me on steep technical climbs. I realize that this is a race fork and suposed to perform the way it does that's why I am looking for an alternative.

If the sag is set correctly I don't know about the climbing problem. I never noticed that. I thought the F100X would be like a F100RL with the terralogic added on, but like you, I think it is more harsh even when the terralogic is dialed all the way out. I've ridden a few F100Rs and RLs and they are all much more plush, but of course you pay the price with major bobbing when you're out of the saddle.

Alpenglow

· #6 · Jul 16, 2006

Too harsh, Too Linear

climr said:
Gotta disagree with Alpinglow about all Fox's being too linear, I found my 06 F100X to be way too progressive (and harsh in general), and I only weigh 165lbs. I.

Most Fox airs forks that I have tried are either Too Harsh or Too Brake Divey/Linear depending on how much air I put in. I went for Too Linear over Too Harsh to give my hands and arms a break. I just kept my weight back to prevent going over the bars. No more Fox Forks or Manitous for Me. The Reba rides just like a shorter travel Pike. It is so amazingly adjustable. I bet if you looked around you could find one for $300-$350.

Peace out.

Jonny69

· #7 · Jul 16, 2006

Second the reba. My father has the world cups and I have the Teams (both 06 models). In comparison to my brothers Fox F80 RLT they are just as plush and stiff, but half the price. I think they are superb value for money and probably the best fork out there for the Flux. Jonathan

bikenut316

Discussion Starter · #8 · Jul 16, 2006

climr said:
If the sag is set correctly I don't know about the climbing problem. I never noticed that. I thought the F100X would be like a F100RL with the terralogic added on, but like you, I think it is more harsh even when the terralogic is dialed all the way out. I've ridden a few F100Rs and RLs and they are all much more plush, but of course you pay the price with major bobbing when you're out of the saddle.

To achieve 25mm sag I would have to run psi way too low. I weigh 220 in gear and run about 75-80psi to achieve 12-15mm sag. The high fork hurts me on steep, slow, technical climbs because the front when weighted will not settle down into it's travel and only reacts to significant bumps at speed that are rare when slow climbing. Alot of body english is required which gets more difficult on an exausting series of climbs.

RedRocker

· #9 · Jul 16, 2006

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climr

· #10 · Jul 17, 2006

bikenut316 said:
To achieve 25mm sag I would have to run psi way too low. I weigh 220 in gear and run about 75-80psi to achieve 12-15mm sag. The high fork hurts me on steep, slow, technical climbs because the front when weighted will not settle down into it's travel and only reacts to significant bumps at speed that are rare when slow climbing. Alot of body english is required which gets more difficult on an exausting series of climbs.

hmm.. I think that the Fox terralogic range isn't consistent between all the forks. I could never really get terralogic to work so that it would take a big hit to unlock the fork, sounds like you are having the opposite problem, you can only get it to unlock with a big hit. I bet that is super annoying when climbing.

You may want to look into an adjustable travel fork too so you can lower the front end on really long climbs if you're inclined to mess with things like that (I'm not). I've heard each click with the rockshox is only 1mm so that might take forever, but they may have changed that with the newer models. One of the main reasons I passed on rockshok was because I could never find the exact fork I wanted, a black 06 reba race/team with no brake bosses and no poploc remote option. They have way too many configurations, and if you get one with poploc remote you can't just not use it, you have to replace some internals to have crown mounted compression adjust (at least that's what I've read). Good luck with the choice and report back!

climr

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zkampyman

· #11 · Jul 17, 2006 (Edited)

Plain Vanilla 4 me

I ride a Vanilla set at 105 mm. I have played with the springs to get a coil that works for my weight with gear. I ride it on my Burner and I love my fork. It is just one thing that I never have to worry about, I just ride the bike and add some air to my rear shock once a month. According to weight weenies there is not much difference between a Fox 100 air shock vs. a Vanilla. The difference is measured in ounces not in a pound measurement. The difference in the ride for a coil is usable 100% of the time unless you are riding up hill on a paved road. I rarely ride on the road for much distance, but if I did I would have bought an RLC for a lock-out.

If you can get a coil that fits your weight, the ride pays you back every time.

Cheers,

Kane

royta

· #12 · Jul 17, 2006

RedRocker said:

Is it just me, or is she missing an upper lip?

RedRocker

· #13 · Jul 17, 2006

Actually she looks a little like Jack in the first Batman movie now that you mention it!

bikenut316

Discussion Starter · #14 · Jul 17, 2006

Shock Pump?

Please allow me to throw another variable into the mix. Could my shock pump be soo inacurate that I am way over inflating my fork? I inflated to 80psi to achieve 10-12mm sag. As an experiment I inflated to 60psi and achieved 20mm sag. I weigh 220lbs in gear and did'nt think 60psi could be enough. I know teralogic can run more moderate pressure but that seems very low. As a side note, I inflate my Rp3 to 205 psi to achieve 30% sag.

xjbebop

· #15 · Jul 17, 2006

Simple...

Reba.

Next....

chunkypaul

· #16 · Jul 18, 2006

bikenut316 said:
Considering parting with my Flux's Fox 100X for a vanilla or Reba. 220lbs with gear and ride XC but don't race. Looking for plush without mush.

not tried the fox but use the Reba Team U Turn which works a treat, lots of adjustability, loads of features, plush, stiff and will work for your weight as i'm about the same

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