I do own both.So my Five Ten Freeriders are about dead. I am trying to decide whether to get another set or go for some Livewires. Anyone tried both? Which do you prefer? What are the differences?
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Yup.Review: Ride Concepts' Livewire Shoes are an Impressive Debut - Pinkbike there are some details about the freerider in this article...
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So the rubber on the TNT and Powerlines is grippier than the Livewires, and the Freerider rubber is grippier than all these RC shoes?Just switched from a 510 freerider to the RC TNT (got them on clearance, not sure if they make those anymore) Like someone had already said, my freeriders had developed a few holes straight through the sole. My first impressions of the RC were they were stiffer, more supportive and more comfortable, I really like the "power strap" for keeping the laces tucked. however, even with the softest RC rubber, they weren't as grippy as the 510's on my Kona wah-wah composite pedals. I rode them for a few rides and was kinda bummed, I was slipping pedals more than I used to on the 510's. Long story long, my foot position was the answer. With the 510's I would aim for landing the ball of my foot in the opening of the pedal, just ahead of the axle. If I could land both of my feet there, I was golden and not going anywhere. With the same foot position on the RC's, I was slipping pedals. I figured out after a few rides, that if I just slide my foot a bit forward, to the pedal axle is closer to mid foot, these shoes stick like glue. Because they weren't as stiff I really needed to nail my foot placement with the 510's or I felt like they weren't gonna hold on. If I needed to readjust with the 510's I would need to actually pick my foot all the way off the pedal and reposition, rinse and repeat until I felt like they were in the sweet spot. With the RC's if I don't land a foot perfectly for whatever reason, the shoes are stiff enough that I don't feel like I'm in danger of coming off, and if I need to reposition it's easier to scrooch my foot around a little for better purchase. I'm at the point now, that I prefer the RC's over the 510's, I feel like the added stiffness in the soles makes everything more comfortable, climbing as well as descending, they're just so much more supportive and I can definitely tell the difference on the hardtail. I think when these wear out I'll tray a set of the RC powerlines, they've got the same rubber as the TNT and look like they've got a bunch of the same features I like.
TLDR; I like the RC better than the 510 Freeriders.
So my Five Ten Freeriders are about dead. I am trying to decide whether to get another set or go for some Livewires. Anyone tried both? Which do you prefer? What are the differences?
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From my (limited) experience, yes. 510's just seem to have the grippiest rubber, hands down. That being said, I still prefer the RC's in every other way. I didn't feel that my freeriders were especially flexy until I got the RC's, the difference was literally night and day. I also dislike how hard it was to reposition my feet, now, because the RC's have so much more support if I can land a foot anywhere on the pedal, I can ride out those "oh $hit" moments without worrying about falling off, and it's easier to reposition once the danger has passed.So the rubber on the TNT and Powerlines is grippier than the Livewires, and the Freerider rubber is grippier than all these RC shoes?
I've been wearing Freerider Pros with Kona Wah Wah 2 Composite pedals for a while, and the only thing I don't like is how hard it is to quickly reposition my foot angle. I was looking forward to the stiffer shank in the RC shoes for my next pair, but if people are finding foot slippage unless they put their arches over the axle, I might just go for Freerider Contacts next time.