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First wheel build, spoke length ??'s

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Okay, I'm determined to build my first set of wheels but I have a couple of questions.
I'm planning on building a set of 700c/29'r wheels using XT hubs, and Salsa Delgado rims. I used the spocalc excel program using the following data: Rims 604ERD, front hub -> center to left and right flange the same at 35.8mm, flange diameter 38mm. Rear hub -> center to left 37.6mm, center to right 21.8mm, Flange diameter both 45mm. Using a 3x pattern I come up with 296mm for both sides of the front wheel, and 295.3 for the nondrive rear, 293 for the driveside.

#1) does this all sound about right?
#2) can I use 296mm for the nondrive rear instead of 295mm, so I just have to buy one size? What if I use 16mm nipples instead of 12mm?

Any other advice is VERY welcome! Thanks for the help!
:)
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TACSTS said:
Okay, I'm determined to build my first set of wheels but I have a couple of questions.
I'm planning on building a set of 700c/29'r wheels using XT hubs, and Salsa Delgado rims. I used the spocalc excel program using the following data: Rims 604ERD, front hub -> center to left and right flange the same at 35.8mm, flange diameter 38mm. Rear hub -> center to left 37.6mm, center to right 21.8mm, Flange diameter both 45mm. Using a 3x pattern I come up with 296mm for both sides of the front wheel, and 295.3 for the nondrive rear, 293 for the driveside.

#1) does this all sound about right?
#2) can I use 296mm for the nondrive rear instead of 295mm, so I just have to buy one size? What if I use 16mm nipples instead of 12mm?

Any other advice is VERY welcome! Thanks for the help!
:)
Your spoke lengths are correct assuming 32 spoke wheel build.

If you use 296mm spokes on the non-drive side of the rear wheel the spoke may stick through the nipple a very small amount into the slotted head on the nipple. The difference is so small though I wouldn't worry about it.

I believe there is no advantage of using 16 mm nipples over 12 mm nipples unless you need them to project farther out of a rim with a thicker spoke bed. I believe that the actual threaded length inside all nipple sizes is the same, just the wrench flats are out further. Maybe someone else can comment on this?
That's what I was wanting to hear. I can order in a box of 50 296mm spokes, so that will cover the front and the non-drive rear with 2 to spare. My thinking with the 16mm nipples vs. the 12mm was flawed after I thought about it more I guess. Thanks for the confirmation! :)
The thread length in nipples can vary from brand to brand. Some are the same regardless of the overall length, some have more thread length on the longer nips. I can not remember which are which.

BTW you can order the exact number of spokes you want from http://www.wheelbuilder.com

I like to get at least one extra of each length and a few extra nipples.
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