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Leaving the Specialized band wagon and my Epic Comp 29er in favor of a shiny new Jet 9 RDO. I saw one at the trailhead, tracked down a demo, and now I have a green frame on the way. First carbon frame. First new bike purchase ever. First Niner.

I'm pretty excited to set some personal bests on my local trails and ride some of my other favorites on a completely different trail machine. I am having my old LBS that isn't a Niner dealer build it for me since I trust the owner who is a personal friend. Can you guys who built them yourself offer any tips or tricks to pass along to assist them in their first Niner RDO build ( I think ).

Here is what I'm working with so far:
J9RDO Medium frameset
SID 120mm rct3 15mm
Arch EX ZTR 3.30 wheels
XX1 drivetrain
Chris King PF30 BB
Easton EC90 low rise bar
RDO stem 80mm
Kore carbon i-beam seatpost
SDG ifly saddle
Crank Bros Candy1 pedals
Nobby Nick EVO SS 29x2.35 F/29x2.25R


Considering updated brakes and swapping to a Crest/ztr 3.30 wheelset.

-Has anyone purchased and installed a kit from Frameskin.com?

I should have some shots in its native habitat by the end of next week if everything works out as planned.
 

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Sounds like you are putting together one fast and light XC beast!

I can not recommend carbon hoops enough, especially for 29ers. You will get the strength and stiffness of an all mountain 26er wheel with the weight of a WW XC wheel. The bigger wheel bikes really come alive with the stiffer wheelsets. Order some LB XC carbon rims and have your LBS build them up to the hubs of your choice. If you just really can't wait to get on the new bike I would get some very inexpensive "placeholder" wheels until the LB rims arrive. If you can manage the expense and want something quicker, go for the Rovals or better yet the ENVE.

Just my thoughts, YMMV. But, if you don't take my advice your bike will basically suck. ;)
 

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I have the same bike and really enjoy it. The build is very simple on the newer frames. There is really nothing tricky at all. The older ones that routed the rear shifter cable into the bottom bracket area were a bit tricky, but the new routing is very simple.

You might want to tell them to put some foam on the rear cable to keep it from slapping around in the frame. That really annoyed me until I put foam donuts on it. Now the bike is totally silent.

Carbon is a bit fragile depending on where you ride. The frameskin stuff will help a little, but won't really protect from a good hard hit. I put this stuff on my frame in key areas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynlxj7X86Nw

Does an amazing job of protecting the frame.

The frame can run 100mm or 120 fork. I like it with a 120 personally.

I agree on the carbon rims, but it still rides good without them. Just not as snappy or stiff. I'm actually running flows on mine right now while getting the hub on my carbon rim fixed.
 

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The frame is definitely designed for both 100 and 120mm forks. I ran the 2013 and 2014 versions with a 100mm Reba that I removed a spacer and got it up to 110mm. I am pretty sure I would have liked the 120 better, but I never had the chance. The 100mm fork without a dropper will make this bike feel pretty exclusively like a XC race only rig. The 120mm should give it a bit more versatility, especially when it gets rough.

The newer cable routing is way better than before. The foam around the rear der housing that is inside the down tube is a must. You will also probably need a small zip tie at either end of the RD housing to keep it from working loose inside the frame.

For frame protection, I use helicopter tape. It comes in rolls and you cut the pieces yourself to fit. I'm sure the frame skins kit is easier, but without ever using one, I couldn't say if it covers all the sections you would want.
 

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I am not exactly sure on the donuts but, I used a foam tape that came in sheets when I was soundproofing my wife's Subaru Forester. It was about about 1/16"-1/8" thick. I cut it to a width equal to the circumference of the housing, then wrapped it around the housing after marking the length that was inside the downtube of the frame. Takes a bit of finagling and there probably are simpler solutions, but that is what I did and it works great. I did it on my Jet9RDO and my Rip9RDO.
 

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I am not exactly sure on the donuts but, I used a foam tape that came in sheets when I was soundproofing my wife's Subaru Forester. It was about about 1/16"-1/8" thick. I cut it to a width equal to the circumference of the housing, then wrapped it around the housing after marking the length that was inside the downtube of the frame. Takes a bit of finagling and there probably are simpler solutions, but that is what I did and it works great. I did it on my Jet9RDO and my Rip9RDO.
KK thx. You did the complete housing that is inside the downtube?
 

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Im deciding on a new post and was wondering if any of you guys run 7x9 carbon rails with Niner RDO post
 

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KK thx. You did the complete housing that is inside the downtube?
Not the area around the steerer/headtube but, pretty much within a few inches of the length of the down tube before it leaves the frame again. That probably wasn't necessary as the housing should be held in place and taut when you zip tie the ends outside of the frame. I just didn't want to have to do it more than once.
 

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To answer my own question yes it does according to my local source. On another note, I have everything for the build in hand; dropping it off at the shop on Wednesday IMG_1602.jpg
 

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You have a nice project there, I'm sure you will love it.
 

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Thanks man Im hoping I love it as much as the demo. Im pretty sure I only learned to love my Epic. I am anxious to get it from the shop Thursday and check the fit with the 80mm stem. Does everyone run a flat or -6/8 degree stems? Hard to tell from pics sometime. All of this extra time waiting has left me with too much free time on my hands to think about how everything will be. Excited is an understatement
 

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I run a 90mm at 6+. It really is a preference thing. To make it a little more trail oriented a 70mm is nice to get your weight back and loft the front easier. Some like it lower and longer for XC climbs.

I have mine built as an aggressive XC/Trail setup with more trail capability. Running a dropper post (reverb) really made it a more versatile bike.
 

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Im heading in the same direction myself, Brightsky, looking for that trail feel too.

I ran an 85mm on the Epic and it still felt tough to get the bars for some steeper creek crossings so I was hoping the [email protected] +6 would be slightly better. Maybe some placebo effect in there too. Which 70 are you using?

I don't think I have ruled out a dropper yet. The reviews on this bike with the 120mm fork on trails is what pushed me into finding a demo.
 

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With a dropper seat post you will be surprised just how good a trail bike it makes.

I put the dropper into both of mine from day 1, Also ran 2.35 & 2.4 tires full time as well.

I'm 6 ft & run a Lge & 50mm 0deg stem with Niner carbon bars.


Im heading in the same direction myself, Brightsky, looking for that trail feel too.

I ran an 85mm on the Epic and it still felt tough to get the bars for some steeper creek crossings so I was hoping the [email protected] +6 would be slightly better. Maybe some placebo effect in there too. Which 70 are you using?

I don't think I have ruled out a dropper yet. The reviews on this bike with the 120mm fork on trails is what pushed me into finding a demo.
 

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Watched a few of your vids. What short,shiny stem is that? Looks like some nice trails you have out there
 

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Watched a few of your vids. What short,shiny stem is that? Looks like some nice trails you have out there
It is a Easton Haven Mag stem.
 

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Im heading in the same direction myself, Brightsky, looking for that trail feel too.

I ran an 85mm on the Epic and it still felt tough to get the bars for some steeper creek crossings so I was hoping the [email protected] +6 would be slightly better. Maybe some placebo effect in there too. Which 70 are you using?

I don't think I have ruled out a dropper yet. The reviews on this bike with the 120mm fork on trails is what pushed me into finding a demo.
I actually have a 90mm on it now. Mainly because I ride it on some very long climbs and occasionally race it in XC and endurance events.

I currently have a 2010 RIP as my everyday trail bike, but it is being parted out next for my 2014 WFO9 build;-). I will have a 50mm stem on it.

I still think the best upgrade I ever did on any bike was a dropper post. It transforms the way you ride and it is hard to live without it once you have had one. The only downside (these days) is a little weight, but it is very much worth it.
 
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