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First video shows soaring vistas and glorious alpine singletrack winding through the thrush. Listen to the warbling songbirds. Glory in the red lupins. II worked some Metallica in there though so that's the redeeming quality and then mixed in Donna Summer "I Feel Love" .


Alpine ridgetop rides from sea cucumber on Vimeo.

This crowd of shuttling radgnars will want to skip to the second video. 1100 m downhill over 2.2 km. Very very fast. Note that we slowed down for every hiker. We CAN all get along. The only people we ran over was each other.


Alpine ridgeline downhill from sea cucumber on Vimeo.
 

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I heard that if you drag your brake less, you actually get somewhere.

Haha, jk man. Nice vids. The second, more DH one looks like a pretty sick track and really steep. I hate hikers on my trails:madmax:
 

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Nice photography, but WTF is with the soundtrack music in the first? Completely inappropriate on pretty much every level. How does the story of a soldier left limbless by a landmine tie into a ride on a mountain?
 

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"Everyone has to snob on the music... sigh"

I'm not "snobbing", just check out the lyrics...

Landmine has taken my sight, taken my speech, taken my hearing...
.... taken my arms, taken my legs, taken my soul, left me with a life in hell...


So, as the soundtrack to a film about joyously riding a bike down a mountain, we have a song about a guy who can no longer see, hear or speak and who has no arms and legs. You think that's fitting? Not even the smallest amount of buzzkill for you? Not even the smallest hint of irony?
 

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SteveUK said:
"Everyone has to snob on the music... sigh"

I'm not "snobbing", just check out the lyrics...

Landmine has taken my sight, taken my speech, taken my hearing...
.... taken my arms, taken my legs, taken my soul, left me with a life in hell...


So, as the soundtrack to a film about joyously riding a bike down a mountain, we have a song about a guy who can no longer see, hear or speak and who has no arms and legs. You think that's fitting? Not even the smallest amount of buzzkill for you? Not even the smallest hint of irony?
No. No buzzkill at all. I, probably like the OP, don't really care what the lyrics say. My buzz doesn't get killed because of the lyrics of a song don't match the video.

Again, sweet place :thumbsup:
 

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"I, probably like the OP, don't really care what the lyrics say."

So how does the fact that it matters to me make me a snob?
 

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"I, probably like the OP, don't really care what the lyrics say."

So how does the fact that it matters to me make me a snob?
No, what makes you a snob is you feel the need to reply to people's videos that their music doesn't match, when you know either:

1. they wont agree with you
2. they wont care
 

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I don't know that the OP won't agree with me and I don't know that he won't care. Maybe he hasn't listened to the lyics; maybe has and can explain why he thought they went with the video? Who knows? I don't, and neither do you.

And by your 'logic', your need to reply to my post must also make you a snob. And around and around we go...
 

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Nice photography, but WTF is with the soundtrack music in the first? Completely inappropriate on pretty much every level. How does the story of a soldier left limbless by a landmine tie into a ride on a mountain?
The song is based on a short story. It never really happened. And when you pick music for a video do the songs only refrence MTBing? 99.9999999% of music in videos don't have anything to do with riding exept that one line in "No Handle Bars" by Flowbots. The song is exelent, deal with it.
 

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"The song is based on a short story. It never really happened. "

Well f*ck me sideways, that makes all the difference to the mental image created by the lyrics. Now I can just imagine a nice floaty cartoon of some puppies lapping at a bowl of custard...with a deaf, blind, speechless, multiple-amputee bobbing around in it. What a relief.

"The song is exelent (sic), deal with it."

The song, and to an extent to original video, did an excellent job of portraying the story upon which it was based*. I haven't made any comment on the song other than to remark upon its unsuitability, in my opinion, for use as soundtrack to an MTB video. I don't need to "deal with it"; but thanks all the same for your advice.

*Do you know what the original story was based upon?
 

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@ SteveUK Actually i never really thought about the song. I honestly don't think much about the lyrics when I am putting in music. Usually i just pick whatever is the right length of song.

It was just making fun of hiker-biker stereotypes - inside joke for some friends. You know Grieg's Morning for the tranquil meadows and foggy alpine vistas with flowers. Then some thrash music when you see the bikers. I like putting goofy music in the videos as most of them have some sort of thrash metal or hiphop or whatever.

anyway, I wasn't trying to make a political statement or whatever. i thought cutting to Donna Summer "I Feel Love" was a bit of giveaway that all i was doing was filling up dead air time./

if you're analyzing this much, its going to be an interesting debate when i put anotehr video where i set it to Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody
 

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I heard that if you drag your brake less, you actually get somewhere.

Haha, jk man. Nice vids. The second, more DH one looks like a pretty sick track and really steep. I hate hikers on my trails:madmax:
The hikers were really cool! We had great sightlines and slowed right down for them. Not many people go here. It's 1100m straight up in 2.2 km hmmmm 3600ft in 1.5miles - a tough push.

yah on the brakes; if we go too fast its tough to get a nice POV image so my buddy ahead kindly slowed down a bit for me so I could film better. Plus on those ridgelines if you went offtrail you'd cartwheel hundreds of feet into bushes. not good for anyone without a head for heights
 

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"I, probably like the OP, don't really care what the lyrics say."

So how does the fact that it matters to me make me a snob?
I am on another forum where a girl posted about listening to a very prominent German White Supremacist metal band that endorses and participates in acts of violence and rallies around Germany and Europe. When called on it, she said "I don't listen to the lyrics anyhow and I don't care". However, she didn't realize most on the forum have had ancestry directly affected by the movement, in addition to being currently affected by it now.

Why is it so tough for people to add a soundtrack fitting of some of the video quality? I see fantastic videos ruined by absolute **** for music, like Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, and a host of other numetal bands, or bands 14 year old boys that wear girls jeans and eyeliner think is metal.
 

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"anyway, I wasn't trying to make a political statement or whatever..."

I didn't think for a moment that you were, Lee. I understood exactly what type of effect you were driving at, it just happens to be my opinion that you choice of song for the rough part is awful. I'm not going to aplogise for my opinion; nor would I expect you to apologise for your choice of song. The music itself is great, but the whole blind/deaf/limbless guy lyrics just spoils it for me; on a surface level because it's just so polarised to the act of riding a bike, and on a much deeper level because it comes across as cruel irony. I know this wasn't your intent, but that doesn't alter the way I perceive your production. For me, the great photography was spoiled by the song.

By the way, have you heard Orion by Metallica (Master of Puppets)? Quite possibly Metallica's (well, Cliff's) finest moment. Riffs-a-plenty...
 

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"ok - that's it! I'm bumping some bike videos set to Royskopp for JC and Steve UK. Where's my applause!"

Lee, that's just unkind.
 

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SteveUK said:
"anyway, I wasn't trying to make a political statement or whatever..."

I didn't think for a moment that you were, Lee. I understood exactly what type of effect you were driving at, it just happens to be my opinion that you choice of song for the rough part is awful. I'm not going to aplogise for my opinion; nor would I expect you to apologise for your choice of song. The music itself is great, but the whole blind/deaf/limbless guy lyrics just spoils it for me; on a surface level because it's just so polarised to the act of riding a bike, and on a much deeper level because it comes across as cruel irony. I know this wasn't your intent, but that doesn't alter the way I perceive your production. For me, the great photography was spoiled by the song.

By the way, have you heard Orion by Metallica (Master of Puppets)? Quite possibly Metallica's (well, Cliff's) finest moment. Riffs-a-plenty...
yah thinking about it the music was wildly inappropriate. The inside joke was that a friend of mine was bugging me that I keep putting Zamfir to the music. It was actually some BoneyM I stuck in but whatever. So I don't know much death-metal mullet music at all so I asked for him for some thrash metal music. That was one of the songs he and a bunch of others recommended. I actually honestly never even listened to the lyrics. I'm a complete utter heavy metal noob.

but now I know about Orion Im definitely adding it to the list of riffs to add!
 

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SteveUK said:
"Everyone has to snob on the music... sigh"

I'm not "snobbing", just check out the lyrics...

Landmine has taken my sight, taken my speech, taken my hearing...
.... taken my arms, taken my legs, taken my soul, left me with a life in hell...


So, as the soundtrack to a film about joyously riding a bike down a mountain, we have a song about a guy who can no longer see, hear or speak and who has no arms and legs. You think that's fitting? Not even the smallest amount of buzzkill for you? Not even the smallest hint of irony?
You are being kinda snobbish. What's more important is the lyrical and musical temp, not the actual lyrics. Otherwise 99.9% of mtb dvd soundtracks would be null and void. Yeah, singing about a fountain of youth really ties into dirt jumping....
 
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