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Was out today on a small group ride. Coming down one of the backside trails from the Sheeps Fold area, when I encountered a very hostile irrational older woman with a small brown dog.

Upon spotting her I did all the right things. Alerting her to my presence as to not spook her or her dog. As PC as I was it was to no avail as she tried to block my passage. All the while the dog was showing me it's teeth and barking at my ankles. I got off my bike and walked past her, she was yelling at me and waiving her arms like a crazy person.I said very little to her. I got on my bike and tried to get away from her and the dog. As soon as I got five feet from her she yells, "get him" "get him" to the dog. The dog gives chase nipping at my feet for a good 100 yards. At that point I had two options. One was to boot the dog in the face. Or two was to just put on the afterburners and dust the dog. I chose the latter.

So watch out for this woman. From what I hear she is in and around the Sheeps Fold. I thought initially when I heard the strory it was exagerated, but it is not. She is for real, and in my opinion very dangerous. It is just a matter of time before someone gets bit by her dog.

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She's going to pull that move on the wrong person sooner or later. I love dogs, but her actions dictate that its going to get hurt.
 

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Crazy Mary

Wow! Not to trying to make your encounter petty or anything, but that was funny. Any idea of what she was freakin' about?
 

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Rooster said:
Wow! Not to trying to make your encounter petty or anything, but that was funny. Any idea of what she was freakin' about?
It is funny on paper, but not in person.
She was freaking because she does not want bikes on "her" trails. The same old story.
 

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yogreg said:
It is funny on paper, but not in person.
She was freaking because she does not want bikes on "her" trails. The same old story.
I agree with TrailGuru, next time/if you see her, take some pictures of her. You tried to appease(sp?) her with kindness, now its your turn to freak her out. What you do with the pix is up to you, but I'd like to see 'em
 

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I hope yogreg's digicam has very little shutterlag. Those extra seconds are important when a dog is bolting for you on the owners command to "attack"....
 

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Locoman said:
I hope yogreg's digicam has very little shutterlag. Those extra seconds are important when a dog is bolting for you on the owners command to "attack"....
Its not too bad.
May be riding there tonight. Maybe I can try and bag her. (joke)
 

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get a pit bull to go bike riding with you next time. then see who is boss and then block her way and everything she did. Bring a cam and then sure her for attacking you with the dog. Just joking but she does seam a little wacked.
 

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yogreg said:
Was out today on a small group ride. Coming down one of the backside trails from the Sheeps Fold area, when I encountered a very hostile irrational older woman with a small brown dog.

Upon spotting her I did all the right things. Alerting her to my presence as to not spook her or her dog. As PC as I was it was to no avail as she tried to block my passage. All the while the dog was showing me it's teeth and barking at my ankles. I got off my bike and walked past her, she was yelling at me and waiving her arms like a crazy person.I said very little to her. I got on my bike and tried to get away from her and the dog. As soon as I got five feet from her she yells, "get him" "get him" to the dog. The dog gives chase nipping at my feet for a good 100 yards. At that point I had two options. One was to boot the dog in the face. Or two was to just put on the afterburners and dust the dog. I chose the latter.

So watch out for this woman. From what I hear she is in and around the Sheeps Fold. I thought initially when I heard the strory it was exagerated, but it is not. She is for real, and in my opinion very dangerous. It is just a matter of time before someone gets bit by her dog.

Greg
just chillin' today, reading some old posts and saw this one. Dude, you're not the only one to encounter this crazy beeyatch!! Damn, some folks are just plain nutso. There's also a woman with a yellow lab who walks on the mtbike loop up around the res in Winchester and she'll purposefully block the trail - and when you ask to pass, she ignores ya or shakes her head no, then ya' eventually go around her and she starts freaking-out. The second time i saw her she told her dog to "get him" as i went off-trail and passed her, but it was a lab so it tried to lick me. Dogs know better than some people who the good guys are...
 

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whittij said:
just chillin' today, reading some old posts and saw this one. Dude, you're not the only one to encounter this crazy beeyatch!! Damn, some folks are just plain nutso. There's also a woman with a yellow lab who walks on the mtbike loop up around the res in Winchester and she'll purposefully block the trail - and when you ask to pass, she ignores ya or shakes her head no, then ya' eventually go around her and she starts freaking-out. The second time i saw her she told her dog to "get him" as i went off-trail and passed her, but it was a lab so it tried to lick me. Dogs know better than some people who the good guys are...
Still beats bumping into the "naked-guy" out there in the middle of the night....
 

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Crazy!!!!!

Riding onto the white trail tonight from the Sheepfold field, the lady with the dog blocked the path and started yelling at us to stay on our own trails. I said nothing and tried to go by her, she grabbed my handlebar and tried to physically stop me from getting by. I told her to let go of my bike immediately. I went into the brush to get by her as did the guys I ride with. As soon as I got past her she siced the little dog on me by saying "go get him." The dog went nuts and chased after us and started to nip.

I thought the lady was unstable and therefore should be avoided, not confronted (she might have mace or even a gun--we are talking about a deranged and angry person IMO). Anyway we took off at full speed and after 5 minutes of cranking I could still here her chasing us. We met some other riders heading in the opposite direction and suggested they turn around, which they did. We took off and climbed to the top of the white where it opens up-well she must have cut us off at the pass. She was already ahead of us and was now piling logs and rocks on the trail to prevent people from riding by. We turned around again here just as she saw us. Now we had some serious downhill advantage over her and we took off fast. We did not see her again but mostly because we stayed on the orange.

This is very bad. We are a very calm group of dog loving pacifists. She is going to run into the wrong group of people and either she, the rider or the dog is going to get hurt. Also, we had to turn around and could not do the ride we had intended on doing because of her. She said she is there every night. There is no way we are not going to ride those trails because of her.

I am not sure what I will do when I see her again?which I am sure I will as we ride there twice a week.

Any thoughts or suggestions? This woman is completely unreasonable and started swearing and screaming and callings us "dudes" after we got past her.
 

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MARider said:
Riding onto the white trail tonight from the Sheepfold field, the lady with the dog blocked the path and started yelling at us to stay on our own trails. I said nothing and tried to go by her, she grabbed my handlebar and tried to physically stop me from getting by. I told her to let go of my bike immediately. I went into the brush to get by her as did the guys I ride with. As soon as I got past her she siced the little dog on me by saying "go get him." The dog went nuts and chased after us and started to nip.

I thought the lady was unstable and therefore should be avoided, not confronted (she might have mace or even a gun--we are talking about a deranged and angry person IMO). Anyway we took off at full speed and after 5 minutes of cranking I could still here her chasing us. We met some other riders heading in the opposite direction and suggested they turn around, which they did. We took off and climbed to the top of the white where it opens up-well she must have cut us off at the pass. She was already ahead of us and was now piling logs and rocks on the trail to prevent people from riding by. We turned around again here just as she saw us. Now we had some serious downhill advantage over her and we took off fast. We did not see her again but mostly because we stayed on the orange.

This is very bad. We are a very calm group of dog loving pacifists. She is going to run into the wrong group of people and either she, the rider or the dog is going to get hurt. Also, we had to turn around and could not do the ride we had intended on doing because of her. She said she is there every night. There is no way we are not going to ride those trails because of her.

I am not sure what I will do when I see her again?which I am sure I will as we ride there twice a week.

Any thoughts or suggestions? This woman is completely unreasonable and started swearing and screaming and callings us "dudes" after we got past her.
This is a very serious problem.
Since my incident I know of at least three other groups not including yours thathave had similar confrontations.
All people are being encouraged to call the Police and file reports. We need to get documantation for future actions. What she is doing can be considered an assault. She is using her dog in an aggressive manner. Luckily nobody has been bit as of yet. It is just a matter of time.

I will flat out not ride the Fells anymore due to this woman and others. Some dog owners in the Fells are getting very careless in my opinion. You almost cannot go through the Sheeps Fold field anytime in the afternoon due to the many dogs off leash that chase after you.
I an a dog lover as well, I am just not a lover of bad dog owners.
 

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come-on now!

while that is totally inexcusable behavior on that insane lady's part, the white trail is closed to riding. if you want to ride them, you're gonna piss some people off - as there are some loony hikers/walkers who love to make a big stink. how would, "a mtbiker ran over my dog on a closed trail" sound in the news? while it may have been that crazy woman's fault and the dog had nipped your ass twelve times, it wouldn't play-out like that on the news.

there's some singletrack sections that are legal in the Fells (like along south border road) then there's stuff that a lot of folks don't walk on that much - or at least i haven't had any issues on (like the cross-fells trail)... and if that doesn't satisfy, there are a ton of places to ride within 25miles of boston. ... i ride a lot of hours per week, live close to the fells and while the orange trail is a favorite, i now avoid it as it helps preserve mtbiking in the Fells. when i was younger, i didn't give a **** about the hikers and all that, then i saw the reality of the situation and the ability of one group to put its policies in place. would mtbiking get kicked-out of the fells? who the hell knows, all i know is that it's not worth losing everything 'cause some folks don't want to drive an extra 30mins to ride decent singletrack. when i need a good dose of singletrack, i head somewhere else - no big deal.
 
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