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Feedback on 44mm reamers?

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D.F.L.

Discussion Starter · Jul 26, 2010

I was told that there might be a VAR 44mm reamer, but have been unable to find anything.

Anybody using either the IceToolz or the King?

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Walt

· #2 · Jul 26, 2010

I have the King

I try to make a policy to only buy decent tools (sometimes I fail) so I dropped the ducats on the King. It works great (though I've only done 3 frames so far) and I don't regret it.

I know Cambria and a few other places list the Icetoolz. It is certainly cheap, but I don't know of anyone actually using one. If someone out there is, chime in and let us know how it works, eh?

-Walt

D.F.L. said:
I was told that there might be a VAR 44mm reamer, but have been unable to find anything.

Anybody using either the IceToolz or the King?

18bikes

· #3 · Jul 26, 2010

I have the icetoools, it's only been used on one frame so far so can't comment on longevity, but it seems to cut fine and fits the park holder if you make a little spacer

all our other cutters are park or cyclo (we have 4 bb taps, two headset reamers and 2 bb facers, it's a long story but basically amounts to "we like tools") and i can't really tell any difference from one use.

It was cheap and because the UK distributor didn't have stock and wasn't going to have it for a while, icetools sent it over with a rep who was on his way back as a special so I can't fault them for customer service.

I'm sure if we start using it more it will get replaced with a king cos they are seriously nice

hope that helps

matt

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smudge

· #4 · Jul 26, 2010

I have the King and would spend the money again.

pvd

· #5 · Jul 26, 2010

The King reamers are pretty rad. It'd be nice if Park would start making more of the new special reamers. That would help bring the cost down and more possibilities.

Linnaeus

· #6 · Jul 26, 2010

These use 100 year old technology, so I'd imagine (or hope) Icetoolz would make a decent cutter. Then again, they are probably made in Asia and who knows what kind of heat treat they use and how their QC is.

pvd

· #7 · Jul 27, 2010

https://www.lifu.biz/icetoolz/index_pro3.php?parent=49&id=275

The seat tube reamers look sweet!

https://www.lifu.biz/icetoolz/index_pro3.php?parent=50&id=282

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smudge

· #8 · Jul 27, 2010

pvd said:
https://www.lifu.biz/icetoolz/index_pro3.php?parent=49&id=275

The seat tube reamers look sweet!

https://www.lifu.biz/icetoolz/index_pro3.php?parent=50&id=282

Yo, if that's their 44mm reamer, I'd want to be absolutely certain that it can cut deeply enough for the 1.5 bearing lower headset cup. Going from memory (which is usually faulty) the ZS/King internal cup is 11mm deep and the 1.5XX44 jobby is 14 or 15mm deep. That simple fact might rule out the icetoolz cutter depending on your needs.

brant

· #9 · Jul 27, 2010

smudge said:
the ZS/King internal cup is 11mm deep and the 1.5XX44 jobby is 14 or 15mm deep.

Sounds incredibly shallow cup depths for a 1.5in race, with the OnePointFive standard calling for 25.4mm insertion depth.

18bikes

· #10 · Jul 27, 2010

the ice tools one only cuts about 7/8mm deep, as most 44mm cups aren't that deep, may cause problems as people have suggested

matt

D.F.L.

Discussion Starter · #11 · Jul 27, 2010

King ordered. Last one in stock.

I wish it was the sort of thing one could rent out, but.

jay_ntwr

· #12 · Jul 27, 2010

D.F.L. said:
King ordered. Last one in stock.

I wish it was the sort of thing one could rent out, but.

Good deal, it sounds like King is really behind right now. Called the other day and they mentioned that they've scaled back to only 4 colors even. You may have the last one for a very long time.

Blaster1200

· #13 · Jul 27, 2010

jay_ntwr said:
Good deal, it sounds like King is really behind right now. Called the other day and they mentioned that they've scaled back to only 4 colors even. You may have the last one for a very long time.

It almost seems like they're going out of the bike business. Over a month ago, I ordered some silver hub shells, but they're still not in. That same shop said some other hubs are on backorder for over 4 months. The last three CK hubsets I've ordered all have taken 4-6 weeks. They should consider having the stuff built overseas.

Walt

· #14 · Jul 27, 2010

I'll throw my hat in the ring...

For those folks who are only going to build one of these, or don't want to invest in more tools (shame!), for $100 I will:
-Ream/Face your head tube with my pretty pretty King tools
-Install a Cane Creek XX44 headset (this is an S-3 level product - ie around $50-60 retail)

Obviously you'll have to get the bike to me in the first place, and if you need it shipped somewhere, you'll have to pay for that too.

I'm not thinking this is something a lot of hobby builders are going to be doing, but if so, drop me a line.

-Walt

Edit:To avoid any appearance of impropriety: http://classifieds.mtbr.com/showproduct.php?product=52772

D.F.L. said:
King ordered. Last one in stock.

I wish it was the sort of thing one could rent out, but.

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D.F.L.

Discussion Starter · #15 · Jul 27, 2010

They said that the new road hubs and a couple of other things were taking up extra machining capacity.

Now, how to mate the cutters to my crappy Bicycle research chunk-o-all-thread.

jay_ntwr

· #16 · Jul 27, 2010

D.F.L. said:
They said that the new road hubs and a couple of other things were taking up extra machining capacity.

Ironically, the new road hubs are what I'd like to order, just in something other than black, silver, red, or blue.

Sorry to derail this, do post pictures when you get it figured out. I'd like to see what you come up with.

Walt, good to know--very good to know. BTW, the CK headset would still press in correct?

Walt

· #17 · Jul 27, 2010

Yup.

The headtube ends up reamed for any 44mm inset/zerostack/XX44 headset you want. If you want a headset that isn't the XX44, the price will change a little bit (well, it'll change upwards...)

If you don't want a headset at all, $50, maybe?

-Walt

jay_ntwr said:
Ironically, the new road hubs are what I'd like to order, just in something other than black, silver, red, or blue.

Sorry to derail this, do post pictures when you get it figured out. I'd like to see what you come up with.

Walt, good to know--very good to know. BTW, the CK headset would still press in correct?

smudge

· #18 · Jul 27, 2010

D.F.L. said:
They said that the new road hubs and a couple of other things were taking up extra machining capacity.

My understanding is that they have been working at absolute capacity for some time and any time a new product is added, it's at the expense of scaling back production on an existing one. How lucky are we that they haven't raised prices again recently?

fanzy4

· #19 · Jul 28, 2010 (Edited)

What about this ??? :

http://www.aufa-outillage.com/alesoir-machine-creux-hss-44-mm-xml-255_284_289_2976_3003-14497.html

Sorry, they don't seem to have an english version... Price is without VAT.

Seems like one of the advantages of living in a metric country....

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Winter Bicycles

· #20 · Jul 30, 2010

That shell reamer is pretty common in 1 3/4" sizes, which are easily reground to 44mm. With the right fixture and a lathe that seems like a decent way to go.

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