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helgi said:
Just wondering; has anyone here put a Pugsley fork on a regular 29er, so that there's an endomorph up front and a regular tire at the back?

Like the Jeff Jones fatty-in-front bike:
I did that. I bought the the whole front set-up with pugsley fork. Then kept waiting for a deal on a Raliegh XXIX, never happened. So I bought a Karate Monkey. Had a great name for the bike, the Punkey, but never liked the way it handled on the trail. Sand fine, singletrack not so great. So I sold the KM frame and am currently looking into a friend doing some fork mods or just ordering a custom fork from somewhere. I'll put that set-up on one of the other frames I have. Sorry I never took pics of the bike.
 

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It thought about doing the Pugs fork on the KM or other 29er, but the A to C height is quite different (19mm or 0.75 inches). This could be why some are reporting unfavorable trail handling.

KM:468mm
Pugs: 447mm
Salsa:468mm

-Dan
 

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Yeah that's why I was looking for a Raliegh XXIX. It's a non-suspension corrected frame. About the same A-C. If you look at the pugs it has a 70deg HA. versus the nearly 73deg I probably ended up with. It rode pretty well on flat stuff. Downhills (especially when braking) and standing climbing were a bad idea though. I'm glad the punkey was also my experiment with a nexus hub in back instead of my usual singlespeed.
 

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helgi said:
Just wondering; has anyone here put a Pugsley fork on a regular 29er, so that there's an endomorph up front and a regular tire at the back?

Like the Jeff Jones fatty-in-front bike:
For soft-snow riding, this just doesn't make any sense--the rider's weight is mostly on the back wheel, and as such the back wheel is the one that needs the extra volume to keep it floating. In places where people ride/race snow a lot (AK comes to mind) 99.9% of the time you'll see the skinnier rim and narrower tire up front. Putting the fatty up front doesn't really net you anything other than extra mass to push and a 'gee whiz, lookit mee' factor.

Unless you're doing shuttle rides and riding down mostly doing a nose wheelie?!

MC

P.S. Digging through the archives in search of photos...
 

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I've never ridden in much snow and never with big tires, but I definitely noticed that sensation when on softer sand with the endomorph up front. Or even any other time I've ridden in sand or snow on my regular width tires. The back end just kept sinking in and slowing me down or throwing off steering. My endomorph up front only was in the same vein as Jeff Jones, as a way to get some passive suspension. Not for any sort of sand or snow riding. And it sure was cushy. Just have to work on the handling.
 

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Yeah, maybe this fatty in front thing isn't such a good idea. Was entertaining the idea of maybe taking my El Mariachi out for some glacier action, but not so sure I'd have much luck with the nose wheelie!

Come to think of it I don't even think the Jones is intended for snowbiking, more of a general funbike with extra cush up front.

Regarding that A to C length, I imagine the fork would then have a similar effect on an El Mar as it did with the Monkey?

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No pun intended there, btw. :)
 

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I just built up a 1x1 w/ a Pug fork, LM rims, Endo front tire and a Serfas 3.0 rear tire. Sorry no pics right now. I got it in snow a few times last week, probably between 5-8 inches of fresh fluffy stuff. It floated well, and I was amazed at what I could still climb, but the front seemed to be washing out a lot easier than my Rampages.
 

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helgi said:
Just wondering; has anyone here put a Pugsley fork on a regular 29er, so that there's an endomorph up front and a regular tire at the back?

Like the Jeff Jones fatty-in-front bike:
I have put a regular 29er on the back of my DeSalvo and tried it after seeing JJ's. Worked okay but I prefer either both ends fat or skinny and not a mix. The endos make riding roots, washouts, sand and other similar terrain so much easier that the trade off in sluggishness is worth it. Still have not taken the bike to real mountains yet and they may not work well there.
 
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