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Daniel the Dog
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I was going to go up to Syncline tomorrow: Sunday. However, I bet the top has a foot of snow. Anyone have an idea? I might try Trail 420 insteed. Anyone else riding?

Jaybo

PS Universal Cycles is opening a big retail store on Thurman in Portland Mid January of '06. It is going to be 4 blocks from the Fat Tire Farm. Old Park from Fat Tire is gripping I bet. I can just see it :)

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Jaybo said:
I was going to go up to Syncline tomorrow: Sunday. However, I bet the top has a foot of snow. Anyone have an idea?
A lot melted today, but it's probably best to try something lower. :) (Note that I haven't actually *been* up there, just basing that on what I can see out my window.)

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We are still able to shuttle the middle section of cold creek on larch (Vanc. WA ) the top and the microwave towers has too much snow. but most of the Tarbell trail system still rideable. XCer's welcome. :D

But myself I dig and welcome the snow. There is a 50 in. base roadside at Govt. Camp and we shuttle the 4.5 mile alpine trail from Timberline to Govt. Camp on ski bikes you guys don't know what you are missing.
 

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Thanks for tips

I rode Syncline yesterday. It was snowy, muddy, and generally pretty unrideable up high. So, I just went up and down Moab, which, was in good shape. I am going to have to try Tarbel. I have always wanted to give it a shot. How do you get there? How do you get one of those snow bikes? Very cool.

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Jaybo said:
I rode Syncline yesterday. It was snowy, muddy, and generally pretty unrideable up high. So, I just went up and down Moab, which, was in good shape. I am going to have to try Tarbel. I have always wanted to give it a shot. How do you get there? How do you get one of those snow bikes? Very cool.

Jaybo
Where are you coming from ? We go up out of Hockinson like you are going to the honor camp correctional facility.
I'd be glad to hook up and show you some trails but I don't think I'll be climbing anything with you on my 50lb dh rig. :D I can show them to you top to bottom

We build the ski-mount kits and old retired bike parts and off you go :D
You can buy kits at www.winterxbike.com
We are on Mount Hood with them every year dropping in at Timberline and coming out at Govt. Camp This just ROCKS guys
 

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Jaybo said:
I rode Syncline yesterday. It was snowy, muddy, and generally pretty unrideable up high. So, I just went up and down Moab, which, was in good shape. I am going to have to try Tarbel. I have always wanted to give it a shot. How do you get there? How do you get one of those snow bikes? Very cool.

Jaybo
Hey Jay,

I plan on riding this weekend, both Sat & Sun., thinking of riding Three Corner Rock (out/back to creek), about 2 hr ride on Sat. and Syncline on Sunday (Coyote Cliffs/Little Moab 1 1/2 loop) about 2.5 - 2.75 hr ride. Give a buzz if interested. Tarbell is fun and dh section of Larch is great, but not in as good of a drainage than Three Corner or Syncline and a little higher elevation, snow for sure, lower Larch also gets pretty mucky due to being on the west side of the hill.

- Jon (rode with ya on the Mt. Hood Epic with Rob in Oct.) at 503-312-3443. I am in NE PDX, and would love to carpool. I just bought a new helmet cam, would love to put it to use this weekend.
 

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Lets do it!

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Hey Jay,

I plan on riding this weekend, both Sat & Sun., thinking of riding Three Corner Rock (out/back to creek), about 2 hr ride on Sat. and Syncline on Sunday (Coyote Cliffs/Little Moab 1 1/2 loop) about 2.5 - 2.75 hr ride. Give a buzz if interested. Tarbell is fun and dh section of Larch is great, but not in as good of a drainage than Three Corner or Syncline and a little higher elevation, snow for sure, lower Larch also gets pretty mucky due to being on the west side of the hill.

- Jon (rode with ya on the Mt. Hood Epic with Rob in Oct.) at 503-312-3443. I am in NE PDX, and would love to carpool. I just bought a new helmet cam, would love to put it to use this weekend.
I will give you a buzz. I would like to have someone show me around lower Larch as I have not been up there in a while. I'll call you this week.

Jay

PS Syncline should be in great shape. It had snow last weekend but Moab was a blast.
 

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I will give you a buzz. I would like to have someone show me around lower Larch as I have not been up there in a while. I'll call you this week.

Jay

PS Syncline should be in great shape. It had snow last weekend but Moab was a blast.
Thanks for the report on Syncline, I was trying to hit it up last Sunday, but the wife won.

I know the Larch/Tarbell area quite well. I am pretty sure Larch and Tarbell trail are under snow just by looking north at the foothills of WA, they are all covered in snow and Tarbell trail traverses over Sturgeon Rock at about 3,200 ft., Larch peaks at about 3,500, definitely covered in snow and lower Larch stinks in my opinion. They re-routed the lower section a couple of years ago that makes the trail pretty lame and they having been logging like mad down there as well. The trails also have a natural tendency to be pretty damp (the lower trails are on the west side of the mt.) and all the lower Cold Creek/Tarbell stuff is mucky and chewed up from horses The upper sections and mid-section are awesome though, had one of my best rides there on Thanksgiving morning, but definetely under snow right now, except for maybe a few sections.

Give me a buzz if you want to ride this weekend, I am looking to filming the descent down Three Corner from the overlook above the creek (5 mi from TH) and "Little Moab" at Syncline with the new helmet cam.
 

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Looks like I should have read through this thread before starting a new thread asking about syncline... oops... I'd still like to know if they are hunting up there though...

Anyways, I was at Tarbell 2 weeks ago and there was a good bit of snow there already. I'll second avoiding the Cold Creek Mud section any time of the year except MAYBE the very middle of summer. That mud is like hub deep.

Unfortunately they have been doing lots of logging on Larch so some of those trails now have clearcuts through them too :(.

Hey Jay, you know if Universal is going to be keeping their old store open as well as the new on by FTF? I haven't been in there in a while, I didn't even know they were moving.

Thanks.

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I would like to ride Saturday

Jon, I definately would be up to riding on Saturday. I will call you. Meant to tonight but got busy putting a washer in...it become more of a job than I thought. So funny.

I'm going to try and stop by Universal tomorrow, so I don't have to wait until 10am on Saturday. My front Hayes' rotor is warped. Shot! Luckily, they are only $23. I thought about trying the Avid Juicy's but I keep hearing they are a pain to keep quiet.

I have a company party on Sunday night, UGH!, but I could ride Saturday afternoon and Sunday morning. My time :)

Universal is not going to stay on Columbia. That sucks because it is closer for me than Thurman.

I think Syncline is going to be okay UNLESS the freeze and thaw pattern screws up Coyote. It got that way last winter with mud despite long periods of dry weather. I get a kick out of Hidden Valley this time of year too. That should be in a good shape.

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That does suck. Universal is WAY closer to me on Columbia also. *sigh* I bet they will start raising their prices too once they get into NW.

I'm probably going to be on Hidden Valley Sunday AM, maybe I'll see you out there again.

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Jon, I definately would be up to riding on Saturday. I will call you. Meant to tonight but got busy putting a washer in...it become more of a job than I thought. So funny.

I'm going to try and stop by Universal tomorrow, so I don't have to wait until 10am on Saturday. My front Hayes' rotor is warped. Shot! Luckily, they are only $23. I thought about trying the Avid Juicy's but I keep hearing they are a pain to keep quiet.

I have a company party on Sunday night, UGH!, but I could ride Saturday afternoon and Sunday morning. My time :)

Universal is not going to stay on Columbia. That sucks because it is closer for me than Thurman.

I think Syncline is going to be okay UNLESS the freeze and thaw pattern screws up Coyote. It got that way last winter with mud despite long periods of dry weather. I get a kick out of Hidden Valley this time of year too. That should be in a good shape.

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Jaybo, I am with you 100% for riding this afternoon and tomorrow morning, I tried calling last night, but I wrote down the wrong number and I accidentily erased my message on the phone, so call again or give me your number so we can get going.

I am at 503-312-3443, it's 10:30am, I am looking at taking off around noon to Three Corner above Washougal for a two hr. ride.
 

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How about tomorrow am?

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Jaybo, I am with you 100% for riding this afternoon and tomorrow morning, I tried calling last night, but I wrote down the wrong number and I accidentily erased my message on the phone, so call again or give me your number so we can get going.

I am at 503-312-3443, it's 10:30am, I am looking at taking off around noon to Three Corner above Washougal for a two hr. ride.
I just got back on the net. I will give you a ring again tonight. I'm putting a new seal kit in my front Hayes' brake today. The bike will be ready tomorrow for sure. I can be reached at (360) 521-0844.

How about riding Three Corner or Syncline tomorrow. I think it is like 30 degrees at Syncline but I certainly can dress for it.

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I just got back on the net. I will give you a ring again tonight. I'm putting a new seal kit in my front Hayes' brake today. The bike will be ready tomorrow for sure. I can be reached at (360) 521-0844.

How about riding Three Corner or Syncline tomorrow. I think it is like 30 degrees at Syncline but I certainly can dress for it.

Jaybo
Hey Jay, I just got back from Three Corner and about 90-95% of the trail is under snow even at 900'. I had to park my car a couple of miles below TH and bike up due to snow and ice on road. I rode the trail up (hike-cycle) for only a mile for a 500' climb and back down shredding the trail with the helmet camera.

I am definitely in for Syncline tomorrow, little Moab for sure, I have only ridden Hidden Canyon once, and liked Coyote Cliff better, but if CC is not rideable right now, I am game. I am going out to dinner but will call you when I get back, I am not on a time restraint for tomorrow, so let me know what works, would be nice to let things warm-up a bit for a late am or early afternoon ride. I am cool either way.

Later, jon.
 

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Hey Jay, I just got back from Three Corner and about 90-95% of the trail is under snow even at 900'.
Really? Bummer, my buddy and I are headed up to Lewis River tomorrow (Sunday). I was figuring the snow hadn't got much lower than 1500 ft and since most of that trail is around 1500' and under a canopy of trees to boot, most of it would be ridable. Not just ridable either, but a nice crusty frozen surface. So you think it's futile?

We thought about 3 Corner, but with how quickly it gains elevation, assumed it would be under snow on the upper portions, but @ 900'?

So should we head to Syncline? I've only been there once; seems like it would be pretty self-explanatory. Anything else I should know?
 

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Really? Bummer, my buddy and I are headed up to Lewis River tomorrow (Sunday). I was figuring the snow hadn't got much lower than 1500 ft and since most of that trail is around 1500' and under a canopy of trees to boot, most of it would be ridable. Not just ridable either, but a nice crusty frozen surface. So you think it's futile?

We thought about 3 Corner, but with how quickly it gains elevation, assumed it would be under snow on the upper portions, but @ 900'?

So should we head to Syncline? I've only been there once; seems like it would be pretty self-explanatory. Anything else I should know?
Yeah I was amazed to see that much snow still up there and especially that low as well, it dumped up there last week, the cold air has been keeping it around and I assume Lewis River to be not much better, WA in general has got hammered with snow last week in mountains and foothills. I would opt for Syncline for sure, I plan on going sometime in late am or early afternoon, might hook up with Jaybo if interested in taggin along, I live in NE PDX, 503-312-3443.
 

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Yeah I was amazed to see that much snow still up there and especially that low as well, it dumped up there last week, the cold air has been keeping it around and I assume Lewis River to be not much better, WA in general has got hammered with snow last week in mountains and foothills. I would opt for Syncline for sure, I plan on going sometime in late am or early afternoon, might hook up with Jaybo if interested in taggin along, I live in NE PDX, 503-312-3443.
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How much snow are we talking about? I'll ride in anything up to about 4 inches. Beyond that and it becomes too much sluggish work. We're leaving at 6am, might be a game time decision. If we drive out there and get skunked, maybe we'll drop in on Syncline. We'll be driving a huge Ford E350 Van, stock white, tinted windows, OR plates.
 

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How much snow are we talking about? I'll ride in anything up to about 4 inches. Beyond that and it becomes too much sluggish work. We're leaving at 6am, might be a game time decision. If we drive out there and get skunked, maybe we'll drop in on Syncline. We'll be driving a huge Ford E350 Van, stock white, tinted windows, OR plates.
Only about 2" with a nice freeze over, it wasn't much but made climbing quite challenging, I hikcycled almost all of it and DH was a little sketch with the ice. Snow starts at W-2000 road right after Dougan Falls, I only could make it up the road about 2miles before having to ditch my Acura and ride the rest to the TH, high clearance vehicle should be no prob. Good luck and leave plenty of time.
 

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I'm cold bug bitten

Woke up with my head in a fog. Plus, I have to rebuild my caliper today because I broke a piston on my Hayes, Dam* ham fisted mechanic I am...laugh. Looks like a great day to ride. Jon, lets ride next weekend if you are free.

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Woke up with my head in a fog. Plus, I have to rebuild my caliper today because I broke a piston on my Hayes, Dam* ham fisted mechanic I am...laugh. Looks like a great day to ride. Jon, lets ride next weekend if you are free.

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No prob, I will definitely ride with you next weekend. I got your number, Saturdays work best since the wife works that day and I am riding today.

Rest up and load up on the goods. If having probs with the brake, hit up Paul at Performance bike (Mall 205). He dialed in my Hayes a couple of weeks ago after I toasted my piston as well. He had it ready to go in one day and charges the best prices around, $15 for labor after he spent a couple of hours on it. He works Tue-Sun.
 
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