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Doing some research on riding. My mistake saying "Europe" in the thread title. Goal is to maximize alpine singletrack in the Alps This is just a dumping ground for links good places to ride. Links culled from various places. Huge thanks to Ripzalot and Uzzi for the ideas

-Would be a two week trip in September
-Would keep geographic locale flexible so as to get the best weather possible.
-Three person group.
-AM bikes.
-All experienced downhillers and from what I've seen of the trails here, could ride the DH trails on AM bikes but goal is pedalling type rides - ie alpine singletrack
-Ideal would be to base camp at one resort or geographic location and fan out from there to different trails. But see caveat re weather
-Would have one bike each, one duffel bag, bike backpack.
-Ideal would be to travel by train but not sure of practicalilty

GENERAL

More info than you can shake a stick at

http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/categories/?o=RrzKj&category_id=157&doctype=journal

http://www.traildevils.ch
http://www.swissalpineadventure.com
http://www.bikingspots.ch

at some point you might want to buy topo maps:
http://www.swisstopo.admin.ch/intern...o/en/home.html

here's some online for free:
http://map.schweizmobil.ch/?lang=en

Another topo site, this one lists the "sleep in straw" farmhouses, which might suit your group if on your bike routes:
http://www.mapplus.ch/?size=1

Or if you find yourself on a high alpine route, book a hut through the Swiss Alpine Club:
http://www.sac-cas.ch/index.php?id=1&L=3

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Alpe D'Huez
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=197718

Anzere
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=195276

Cauterets Pyrenees
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=536606&highlight=europe

Chamonix - part Mt Blanc
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=226551
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=119352 (Brevent)

Chamonix - Morzine traverse
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=553623&highlight=europe
http://www.ridemorzine.org/2009/09/chamonix-to-morzine/
& discussion - http://forums.mtbr.com/showpost.php?p=6101150&postcount=35

Chamonix to Zermatt traverse
http://www.endoftheride.com/chamonix-to-zermatt-mtb/
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?p=6236784

Chatel
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=197280

Chaumont
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=160886

Col de la Croix (right way loop)
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=117304

Crans Montana
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164579
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=161805

Diablerets Glacier
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=127019

http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=434901

Dolomites
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=317245&highlight=europe

Dorenats
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=191705

Engadin - Vinschgau (swiss-Austria-Italy border loop)( --->Sur En - Offenpass - Livigno - Burgeis - Sur En)

http://forums.mtbr.com/showpost.php?p=3282831&postcount=3

Fenetre Durand
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=335463&highlight=europe

Four traverses *Grande Traversee du Jura, Grande Traversee des PreAlpes, Grenoble to Gap, Gap to Nice,

http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=438490
http://chazellefamily.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=2572
http://chazellefamily.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=2583
http://www.gtj.asso.fr/
http://www.chemins-du-soleil.com/

La Clusaz
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=196122

La Tourche
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=434901

Le bresillien
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=199047

Les Deux Alpes
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198191
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129610
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32061

Les Gets
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=193782
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=43998

Livigno
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=541513&highlight=europe
http://www.pinkbike.com/news/Livigno-Season-Review-2010.html

Metabief
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122026

Morzine
http://www.ridemorzine.org/
http://www.endlessride.com/php/home.php

Passportes du Soleil
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56564

Portes Du Soleil

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=195668
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89817
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60816
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57075
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=42787

Samoens
http://www.ridemorzine.org/tag/samoens/
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Tignes
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166338

Tour de Mont Blanc
http://www.endoftheride.com/2009/02/tour-du-mt-blanc-by-mountain-bike/
Guided trip - http://www.ridethealps.com/
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=214929&highlight=tberg

Valli Maria
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=349410

Visp to Brig
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=224439
 

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I see you are finally going to Europe. Land of 10 mile+ descents. Bring big rotors and extra pads. You're going to love it!
 

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For the French alps,
gps tracks site, very good.
I booked a camping, did some tours in the area (Ecrins) end then a 7 day guided tour. Grenoble to Gap to Embrun. Next time I would prefer to do the camping and do my own trails from the gps site. The difficult ones are really difficult.

http://www.vttour.fr/topos/
 

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I'll keep adding to this:


http://www.pinkbike.com/news/colin-stewart-all-mountain-edits-2010.html

See Comments. Much of the singletrack in the photos and videos one will see is ephemeral and exists only in short segments. In particular see comments re the dubious legality of singletrack there so it seems I'll have to be very selective about biking trails
 

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these are all clustered within a 10km radius or so:
Portes du Soleil
Morgins
Samoens
Morzine
Chatel
Lets Gets

a little further out:
Chamonix
Verbier
Crans Montana

far flung:
Les Arcs
Les Deux Alpes
Alpe D Huez
Metabief
Pila
Laax
Livigno

Its probably not too hard to cover some distance but it would be great to be able to travel by bike rather than lose a day in transit. Although it would be a nice cultural change to ride in Italy too.
 

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Re your traveling by train requirement: should be absolutely no problem in Switzerland. Fast and reliable railway system, with fast and reliable bus connections to get to the more remote places. Buses will typically stop at cable car stations as well, perfect for lift-assisted single track riding.

If you're gonna travel by train in Switzerland, consider getting a half-fare card (so-called "Halb-Tax"). Regular one is 150 CHF, but it's worth it if you're travelling a lot. Your bike requires a 10 CHF train day pass, unless it's for a very short route.

From my experience, summer weather in Switzerland is always good (rideable) in at least either the east, west, or south due to the main Alp structure.
 

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Hi Lee - is the objective appears to be to bag quality riding rather than make a journey so my comments are based upon that assumption.

To travel into the region and expect to find the best single track quickly will be an ambitious plan. The Alps are a huge region with a massive network of trails. The French 25,000 scale topo maps are pretty good (I don't know what the Swiss put out) but some of the trails shown are not there, trails exist which are not mapped and the maps are not a reliable guide as to what is quality riding! You can find great riding that way but it is very hit and miss without local help or guiding.

I know the Les Arc/La Plagne area of France very well indeed and have ridden there every summer since 2001. The main reason for staying is the superb company I go with (Bike Village) - probably not your thing - but they keep finding new stuff and the extent and quality of the trails there just keeps me coming back year after year. I think it would take 5 to 6 weeks to get around all their better quality stuff in one trip.

Whilst I undoubtedly would have found some of the good stuff on my own there is a stack of extraordinary riding in that area that I would never have found - they go out off season for epic exploration, much of which is downright hard work and unproductive. I am happy to pay to get the very best of it in a short trip, with no wasted effort!

The riding there has lift assist available (though not in September) and we use it some days - it is primarily epic XC type riding with a mix of open upper slopes and steep wooded slopes and ravines full of ledges, switchbacks, rocks and roots. The general level is advanced with options all the way to totally insane - there is stuff to test any level (and I know yours is high!).

If you are interested in that area at all I would be happy to help with maps/routes and could hook you up with Sam at Bike Village who would be even better able to assist. There is one big loop we do that ends up quite a few miles away from their base in Landry and we can just jump on the train with the bikes to come back - about 4Euros for 20+ miles - bargain!

Whatever you decide to do the Alps will not dissappoint - have fun.
 

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Add a crossing-the-alps to your list too

Nice collection of links :)
Consider doing a transalp also.

If you go two weeks in september make it the first two weeks. I went this September, in the middle of the month. Many of the high passes had pretty much snow. It wasn't possible to cross the highest passes. Below 2300-2500 it was clear. It depends on the region of course.

The german Bike compiles a list of guidecompanies every year. Here's 11 pages of Alp crossings: CLICK IT - go for Schwer

Kasper


Here's some pictures, GPS and video from the two crosses I have recorded.


2008
Day 1 https://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=bbldigwlzqslfrsr
Day 2 https://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=maezbhdhzdsyzbtv
Day 3 https://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=bpqehcmenrrwrqsq
Day 4 https://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=ukjdfloxiazasron
Day 5 https://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=jxxklezlbkbsulxl
Day 6 https://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=xaveantqmduvhlqi

Videos: Day 1, day 2 and day 3



2010
Day 1 https://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=szssnvwtsfsjwzmk
Day 2 https://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=oxidjlbzltluvclm
Day 3 https://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=pgwlgfioixxfthha
Day 4 https://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=ewhmbblqnnwuhzmw
Day 5 https://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=pebkrhqxxgyibvtb
Day 6 https://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=qslyhkrzpgbdrfmw



 
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