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Epiphany Fork - 130mm??

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jalea

Discussion Starter · Jan 11, 2010 (Edited)

I have been thinking that 130mm travel fork might be the perfect geometry for the Epiphany.

Anyone out there running a 130mm fork on their EPI??

Fox offers an OE version of the RP24 Talas that is 130mm max. Basically a Talas RLC, with 4 clicks of lockout platform blowoff adjustment instead of 9.

http://www.foxracingshox.com/fox_te...g/Content/OE_Custom_Products/RP24TALAS_OE.htm

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slowrider

· #2 · Jan 11, 2010

I wouldn't

But then again I like a 69 deg HA on a 5" bike. I put 50 miles on 2 different epiphanys and I really liked the way they handled small bumps, very plush. I wouldn't however lower the front any more than it was with the 140mm forks I tried it with.

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Valhalla

· #3 · Jan 11, 2010

I went from a 2003 Cali style ID with a 130 Talas to a 2010 Epiphany with the same fork. I feel that the bike feels alot more xc on the front end. That being said there was a thread earlier this year where people were saying they preferred the 130 over 140.

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thumbies

· #4 · Jan 12, 2010

yep,
I had a 140 mm Vanilla, which was a warranty replacement for a 130 mm Vanilla, and i felt the extra 10 mm totally wrecked the handling. It felt tall (stilty) and was difficult on steep climbs. After a few rides i swapped it for a coil U turn Pike which i keep at about 120 mm for most terrain. 120 mm Rock Shox = 130 mm Fox in axle to crown.

I think a 150 TALAS RLC would be a better choice though, so you could increase the travel for bombing downhills. Will you be going with the 15 mm thru-axle or regular QR?
The Pike has a 20 mm thru-axle and its awesome for front end stiffness. Its also quicker to remove the wheel than regular QR.

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Nsynk

· #5 · Jan 12, 2010

If you look at the Ells website they suggest a fork of 495mm axle crown, thats 120mm travel for most manufacturers forks.
I would suggest a 130mm fork is perfect (geometry wise) , slackening the angles just slightly but not raising the bb too high.

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yangpei

· #6 · Jan 24, 2010

I think 130mm is perfect for the Epi. When I built up my 07 Epi, I had to find a NOS 06 32 Float with 130mm travel.

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TNT-Spot

· #7 · Jan 26, 2010

130mm the way to GO!

yangpei said:
I think 130mm is perfect for the Epi. When I built up my 07 Epi, I had to find a NOS 06 32 Float with 130mm travel.

+ 1 on Yangpei! :thumbsup:

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outside!

· #8 · Jan 28, 2010

thumbies said:
yep,
I had a 140 mm Vanilla, which was a warranty replacement for a 130 mm Vanilla, and i felt the extra 10 mm totally wrecked the handling. It felt tall (stilty) and was difficult on steep climbs. After a few rides i swapped it for a coil U turn Pike which i keep at about 120 mm for most terrain. 120 mm Rock Shox = 130 mm Fox in axle to crown.

I think a 150 TALAS RLC would be a better choice though, so you could increase the travel for bombing downhills. Will you be going with the 15 mm thru-axle or regular QR?
The Pike has a 20 mm thru-axle and its awesome for front end stiffness. Its also quicker to remove the wheel than regular QR.

I run the coil U-turn Pike on my 2006 Epi. After playing with the U-Turn a lot, I now just leave it at 140mm, even on steep climbs. The handling seems fine to me. I weigh over 200lbs when riding, so perhaps my stock Pike is sagging a little more under me than for others. I love the way the coil Pike soaks up the small chatter bumps that tend to make my old wrist injury ache, and also devours the big "oh ****" hits when I get off line. I noticed the increased lateral stiffness from the 20mm through axle right away.

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jalea

Discussion Starter · #9 · Jan 31, 2010

Thanks for all of the replies and opinions on this topic

After doing some research it looks like you can install a 10mm travel reduction spacer on the newer Floats (2007 and up) to reduce 140mm to 130mm. Should take the A-C from 510mm to right at 500mm (+/-)

This is Fox's part:
http://service.foxracingshox.com/consumers/Content/234-04-096_revA.pdf

I am calling Fox next week to see if this seems right to them....

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RACERX70

· #10 · Feb 15, 2010

130mm all the way. I started with a TALAS that allowed 100,120 and 140mm adjustments. 100 was almost totally unusable, besides on extremely steep climbs. 120 was decent for most climbs, but too sketchy on descents, especially technical types. I always felt like I was about to go OTB. As for 140, it totally destroys the handling of the bike in the tighter stuff and really flops around on the climbs.

I finally had PUSH yank the TALAS cartridge out and install a fixed 130mm RLC cartridge. It was like a whole new bike. The handling was spot on. It also provided for a very stable platform while climbing and descending,

The Epi is such a sweet bike for trail riding and it just does everything so well when coupled with the correct fork. It's a shame to see people using the wrong fork as it never allows them to realize the true potential of the bike.

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jalea

Discussion Starter · #11 · Feb 15, 2010

RacerX: That is great to hear and I have since acquired a Rock Shox Revelation Fork with 140mm-110mm U-Turn feature. I realized it would be the best/easiest way for me to truly dial the Epi in to my preference. Looking forward to building it up:thumbsup:

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jimmy L

· #12 · Feb 15, 2010

Yeah I ran the Revelation for nearly 4 years on my Epiphany. Now I put DT swiss XMC 130 which I hope will be the business.

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